So this year I have asked out and talked to more girls (also approached) than I have ever before. YEt I'm noticing a disturbing patterm. I'll ask a girl out she'll say yes and then my game pretty much falter. I usually use indicators of interests here and it seems way to strong so I guess I come off as ingenuine compare to my previous ****y and funny self. THis is a problem that occurs between the actual asking out and the first date. See I know I shouldn't do this but I:m not sure what to do because the girls that I really like and am usually attracted to can't take to much C&F. HELP. THANKS.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Need Help On My Game Asap
- Thread starter kidkoala
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I think you just need to practice your C&F a bit more. It doesn't come instantly, it needs to be practiced and turned into a habit. Eventually, it'll become a part of you and you won't have to worry about it.
Alternatively, can lower your C&F at the beginning to a more comfortable level so you won't appear different later on.
I'd actually recommend the second option cuz like you said ..."the girls that I really like and am usually attracted to can't take to much C&F"
hope this helps
-peace-
Alternatively, can lower your C&F at the beginning to a more comfortable level so you won't appear different later on.
I'd actually recommend the second option cuz like you said ..."the girls that I really like and am usually attracted to can't take to much C&F"
hope this helps
-peace-
Post more about how your game falters. Don't analyze just give facts... You ask them out, then what? Exactly how did you ask them out? They say yes, but then you call them and they flake? They say yes, you meet them, where? how did the meeting start? did you hug them? shake their hand? give details... don't worry about when you think the pickup failed, just give all details as possible...
OK I'll give an example here. I approached this one girl in the library at my school asked her if I could join her. She said yea we started talking she was laughing and smiling a lot despite the fact that some of my jokes were lame, indicating that she is interested. So I talk to her for about two more weeks and then I say, "SO you wanna hang out sometime?" she's like sure but also says I have a pretty busy schedule. I'm like alright and i think it is all good. I don't really change my behavior but then a week later (she was busy that weekend) one of her friends tells me that the girl I asked out thinks I;m a stalker. I'm like what the hell. I just don't get what I did wrong. Or maybe this girl is just crazy. BUt yeah lots of yeses no actual dates. WTF. Thanks all.
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Master Don Juan
Whoa buddy! You just skipped a week which resulted in her thinking youre a stalker...what were u doing?? Following her home??Originally posted by kidkoala
a week later (she was busy that weekend) one of her friends tells me that the girl I asked out thinks I;m a stalker.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.