"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need help making a move....

Malekith

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Hey guys, so I have been really good friends with this girl for a while now. As of late we've been hanging out a LOT. I have always wanted to make a move but was worried and hesitant to do so.

So I'm asking, can you guys help me out on HOW to make the actual move? And possibly give me an idea of how/when I should make the move...

Also, discussing it wouldn't be the best idea (just by knowing her, it has the potential to me more awkward if I were to be rejected vs making a move on her).


Thank you guys
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Johnnyventana

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I would start with kino and see if she reciprocates. Also, add alcohol.
 

thevilittletroll

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dont make a move on her, she will see it as weird, cause you have been friends for so long. it will blow up in your face. game another chick in front of her see if she gets jealous, if not you have no chance.

tip for the future: when you meet a girl, kino escalation should start at hello, and continue up to sex. you will lose more girls by not making the move earlier than if you make no move at all. when you build attraction and make no move on her she starts to see you as a p.ussy with no confidence and loses attraction for you. all the work you did is now flushed down the toilet and it really hard to get it back. so take more chances, and take them earlier than you would normally. even if she rejects you kino move she will not lose any attraction you built.
 
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