"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Read more...

Need help making a move (kino)

Khag

New Member
Joined
Jan 24, 2008
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Hi guys, I've been a lurker for a while made some changes and had better success. Anyways I have a bit of trouble with kino, especially when I'm alone with a girl. Let's say I'm alone with a girl on a couch, or a bed watching a movie. How, and where (body part) should I go about making the first move? Also is it appropriate to use kino when others, like her female friends are around?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

ready123

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 16, 2007
Messages
1,259
Reaction score
35
Location
Los Angeles
google the Dicarlo escalation ladder. then at least you'll have a structure in your head

and kinoing around friends is situational - if you're just starting out, don't do it, especially the overt stuff. isolate first
 
Joined
Mar 18, 2006
Messages
3,956
Reaction score
37
Do the old school method - pretend like you are tired and do a fake yawn, while at the same time stretching out your arms and putting your arm around her shoulder.
 

SharinganUser

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
1,776
Reaction score
50
Just relax. Put your arm arround her, or try to hold her hand. But don't just hold it. Play with it like rubing it or something.
 

lighthouse1956

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 7, 2007
Messages
46
Reaction score
0
Just rub the top of her shoulders with a firm massage, works or me. On the couch bit, you sit first, put your arm over the back, this is an invite signal.

When you massage shoulders, ask if she had a hard day because they're 'tight'.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Top