"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Had a third date with this therapist. She said something about S&M guys being attracted to her and she didn't know why. Was this a hint? Plus it was the third date and no sex. She did buy me a rib eye. She texted me and set a date for a trivia night in a week or so. Thoughts? I'm not in to her but Im not really into any girl of late. I just dont give a sh it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Was this a hint?
A hint at what? If she is into S&M or if she wants to fvck? You could've simply followed up her statement with, "So you're not into S&M?" and see how she reacted ;)
 

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A hint at what? If she is into S&M or if she wants to fvck? You could've simply followed up her statement with, "So you're not into S&M?" and see how she reacted ;)
I should have done that. But I wasn't that interested. New twist. She invited me on a date but now I have to email her...WTF? She says her phone is screwed up. The date is in about a week. It's a trivia night so that should be fun. I feel like I am being analyzed. Talking with her. I have dated a few therapists and they were crazy. I see my therapist tomorrow and she is very interested in my sex life.
 

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Had a third date with this therapist. She said something about S&M guys being attracted to her and she didn't know why. Was this a hint? Plus it was the third date and no sex. She did buy me a rib eye. She texted me and set a date for a trivia night in a week or so. Thoughts? I'm not in to her but Im not really into any girl of late. I just dont give a sh it.
This is mind boggling. You admit that you're not that into her, she at best is lukewarm to you (that might be stretching it) and you're going on a 4th date with no sex/sexual advances? Come on man, this is an utter waste of time. Do something or get rid her.
 

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depends if you want her as a friend. if you're not that into her that's an option. you've got the chance now because you haven't f***** her. friendzone never works after that.

agree totally - all the psychs I ever met were head cases.

if you are still after the puss 4 dates = wings on Fire pull up
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This is mind boggling. You admit that you're not that into her, she at best is lukewarm to you (that might be stretching it) and you're going on a 4th date with no sex/sexual advances? Come on man, this is an utter waste of time. Do something or get rid her.
Good advice.
 

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depends if you want her as a friend. if you're not that into her that's an option. you've got the chance now because you haven't f***** her. friendzone never works after that.

agree totally - all the psychs I ever met were head cases.

if you are still after the puss 4 dates = wings on Fire pull up
Not really after puss. SHe is all tatted up, her ex husband and bf choices were extremely bad. Only reason I am going on this 4th date is it's a trivia night. I need to work on my escalation. Usually I have them in bed by the first or second date. Like I said my give a sh itter is turned off. I will talk to Low T doc and tell him my libido is low. See what he says. I'm done after 4th date anyway and no sex.
 

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Not really after puss. SHe is all tatted up, her ex husband and bf choices were extremely bad. Only reason I am going on this 4th date is it's a trivia night. I need to work on my escalation. Usually I have them in bed by the first or second date. Like I said my give a sh itter is turned off. I will talk to Low T doc and tell him my libido is low. See what he says. I'm done after 4th date anyway and no sex.
Check my post in the health forums in the who dares wins thread about libido/testosterone regarding this.

If I had to guess I'd say your estradiol levels are probably too high. Mainly because exogenous test aromatizes into estrogen at a higher rate than endogenous, and you said you were overweight. Fat cells produce estrogen themselves. More estrogen equals more SHBG which binds to testosterone and renders it inactive. Free test is more important than total test, as that's the only test that's active in the body.
 

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Check my post in the health forums in the who dares wins thread about libido/testosterone regarding this.

If I had to guess I'd say your estradiol levels are probably too high. Mainly because exogenous test aromatizes into estrogen at a higher rate than endogenous, and you said you were overweight. Fat cells produce estrogen themselves. More estrogen equals more SHBG which binds to testosterone and renders it inactive. Free test is more important than total test, as that's the only test that's active in the body.
Ty
 

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Wow man... Sounds like she doesn't want you blowing up her phone.

If trivia night is at her house, fvck her. If not, drop her. 4 dates and no sex? Hmm... Maybe go 5, but that would be the max for me.
Edit: 5 dates but you dutch the bill (half it) the next two. Don't spend more than $10-15 on the next two dates.
First date coffee, second dutch, she paid for. Steak third. Will dutch the rest.have only called to set up dates have ignored her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Ok on this date I am going to escalate the hell out of her. If that doesn't work I'm gone.
 

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Ok on this date I am going to escalate the hell out of her. If that doesn't work I'm gone.
A good idea. Women have no defense against action. Be forward. Touch her. Read her body language when you do. And if you feel like kissing her, why not? If she moves her head away, then you know she's a NEXT :)
 

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A good idea. Women have no defense against action. Be forward. Touch her. Read her body language when you do. And if you feel like kissing her, why not? If she moves her head away, then you know she's a NEXT :)
THIS..

Have fun but be aggressive and blatant. You may have had your window of opportuinity pass by but if theres any slight chance its now and never. No excuses for not going neanderthal on her...at this point, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE..
 

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So you sound like you are being nice and not really going after what you want because you don't want to scare her away. But if she was so awesome she would see the value in who you are and would be more intimate with you. So bored girl hangs out with her little "harmless" pet guy so she's not alone. And harmless pet guy hangs with her because he doesn't have anything better. You are fostering a circle of social cancer buddy, you reap what you sow. She is going to eventually if not now start thinking you are a weirdo for orbiting around her butthole like you are. So your timidity and kindness will only work against you after the hamster starts going.


Nice guy + uninterested girl = nothing
Aggressive guy + uninterested girl = nothing
Nice guy + interested girl = nothing
Aggressive guy + interested girl = explosive sex, relationship, LTR, whatever you are in control now


You do the math.
 
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