"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Need advice on supermarket girl

Tbill

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Hello again,
I thought it would be wise to get advice before I screw stuff up. So herrrrrre weeee go.

So there is a girl I have seen on and off for about a year at the supermarket checkout line. I am not sure how to figure out if she is fake nice or nice. I have stared and smiled at her while I we are talking and she seems kewl with it. When I say bye to her she usually gives me akward goodbyes. She is a pretty bubbly person so I am not sure what kind of test I need to throw out to see what her interest level is.
We have only talked about her schooling and blah blah. I try to make some jokes but most of the time my mind goes blank--still and idiot under fire.

Thanks for any advice before I screw this one up.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Night-hawk

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I replied to your other post...related looks like.

First, screw what up? I would say, avoid thinking like that, because all that does is put unnecessary pressure on yourself. And you can help avoid this by keeping from asking her questions that hint at you wanting her but rather asking her questions that get her hinting at you being a challenge and the prize.

Lot's of guys take rejection bad because they set themselves up to take it personally.
 

BobMo'

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This is the "mature Man" forum. How old are you?
 

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A year? You already screwed up if you waited a year.

Guys, if you meet a girl and you don't get SERIOUS interest RIGHT AWAY (i.e., a compliment, a touch, serious eye contact, a date, a kiss), move on. When you look at a woman you are experiencing her reaction to you. If it's not what you want, change the woman or change yourself.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Night-hawk

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Fact is she already said no and 'inappropriate' to you. A skilled DJ can use that to his advantage. I do, however, feel you are chasing your tail here TB. Don't run in circles to chase what doesn't have a reason to catch.

That is to say, you have fancied this girl, because for a year you have been thinking about HOW to GET her and the chase has you hooked...usually we want this the other way around with girls ;)
 
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