"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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just texted the girl ive been seeing for a while we just got back togther and asked if she wanted to do some thing later. She said she was going to try and go to dinner with this guy friend since she had been putting it off for a while but said we could later if i wanted to. I know her and this guy have slept togther before.

What should i say back? was thinking of something along the lines of Ok ...sounds like your busy ill do something else and catch up with u later. but what else can i say>
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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What do you mean you are "back together"? If she's going to dinner with some guy then you aren't together. At least to me you're not.

If you're just casually dating her, I would call her up and just say hey let's go out (the same day she said she might have plans). If she says "well I dunno maybe after" then just say something like

"well if you're too busy, then maybe we shouldn't"

Wait for her reaction. If she recommends another day then you're good. If she is vague, she is messing with you.

By the way, if when you said "back together" you are bf/gf you need to talk to her about seeing other men. Because I wouldn't put up with that.
 

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Uncharted said:
What do you mean you are "back together"? If she's going to dinner with some guy then you aren't together. At least to me you're not.

If you're just casually dating her, I would call her up and just say hey let's go out (the same day she said she might have plans). If she says "well I dunno maybe after" then just say something like

"well if you're too busy, then maybe we shouldn't"

Wait for her reaction. If she recommends another day then you're good. If she is vague, she is messing with you.

By the way, if when you said "back together" you are bf/gf you need to talk to her about seeing other men. Because I wouldn't put up with that.
yeh your right. we have been like this for a year and a half. its complicated. she can go have dinner with guy friends bc of personal matters in their lives and they want to talk etc but if i go out im the bad guy. I mean its treated like a relationship towards me but if i treat it like one towards her she wigs out
 

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The only thing you can do here is to tell her to go fvck herself.
 

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It sounds like you are really caught up on this one chick (one-itis). Maybe let her go for a while and date other girls? If you are always hounding after her for a relationship then you might come across as needy.

Best-case scenario you meet a hotter/nicer chick and start dating her. Then you'll forget all about this one. It's happened to me about 6 times before - trust me finding new pu55y is the best medicine.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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SamTheHobit said:
The only thing you can do here is to tell her to go fvck herself.
As much I usually disagree with Sam on everything, I agree with him on this. I was in your shoes once. Why keep being on and off with a girl for YEARS when you're getting nothing out of it besides being led on. Drop her. Of course you don't need to tell her anything just be a ghost.
 

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Thats good advice, you should go ghost.

I had a so called relationship like this once and it sucked.

go ghost.
 

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fuko2007 said:
yeh your right. we have been like this for a year and a half. its complicated. she can go have dinner with guy friends bc of personal matters in their lives and they want to talk etc but if i go out im the bad guy. I mean its treated like a relationship towards me but if i treat it like one towards her she wigs out
Quasi-relationship. She's using you. Not interested. Been through it. Get out of "complicated" stuff. Life should be simple.
 

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thanks guys lots of good advice and it seems that everyone is saying the same thing. Ive gone ghost on her before and didnt talk to her for 2 or three months but thats when she started to treat it like a relationship but say we are not in one. Anyway i think ill take yalls advice and just spin plates for the time being. im only 24 so why get hung up in a semi LTR that sucks right? As far as ghosting again i think ill just distance myself slowly etc. but ill keep updateing things.
 

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fuko2007 said:
just texted the girl ive been seeing for a while we just got back togther
Looks like she is "getting together" with another guy instead


fuko2007 said:
and asked if she wanted to do some thing later. She said she was going to try and go to dinner with this guy friend since she had been putting it off for a while
So she chooses another guy over you. Sounds like a great start to "getting back together"

fuko2007 said:
but said we could later if i wanted to. I know her and this guy have slept togther before.
If you wanted to? Shouldn't she want to do something with you since you are "back together"? What do you think they are going to do after dinner? This proves right there that she has no interest in you.

fuko2007 said:
What should i say back? was thinking of something along the lines of Ok ...sounds like your busy ill do something else and catch up with u later. but what else can i say>
You should go out with another girl. Then you should tell her to fvck off. That is what you should tell her. Can you handle that? She will be busy fvcking him, not you. Why would you let a girl do that to you if you are "together"? Makes no sense at all. You let her treat you like a b!tch while you just take it. Don't let a woman treat you this way!! Ever!!

This is why women treat men the way they do because these "men" allow themselves to be treated like a b!tch and they just take it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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