"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need a quick opinion...not utterly important

seek&destroy

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Yesterday was my last day of school. At the end of the exam, I walked up to the girl that rejected me at the start of our schooling, and said "It was nice knowing you, it's been a pleasure, as always." and smiled. She couldn't even look at me. She looked away and said "you too", before going off to her car.

I don't get it...was she just trying to tell me "don't contact me, ever again" by doing this, or am I just getting worked up over nothing?

Later on in the day, I sent her a message saying "thanks for all your help while we were at school. I wish you all the best"...same message I sent to 23 other people in the class! She was the only one who did not reply. I think it's very clear at this point, if it wasn't someone would need to draw a ****ing picture for me to get it!

Either way, it doesn't matter much, I just want to know what you guys think..

Short story: I asked her out 2 years ago, she said she wasn't looking for a BF and wanted to focus on school. A week later she started dating the next closest guy to us. I sent her messages professing my undying love for her (big mistake!) right before she started seeing this douche. She took 10 days to respond to me, and when she did all she said was that she saw us as friends, and nothing else. She was all over me when we first met...yet when I asked her about it she denied it and said she is nice to everyone...

Just a quick opinion is all I need now.
Thanks!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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SgtSplacker

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You can't be nice to girls. You can't tell them you like them like that. You ruined your chances at getting this girl forget about her. Read the DJ bible and prepare for the next one that comes along so you don't mess it up with her too.
 

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Yeah I know I messed up..that's not what I needed to hear.

She was fine with talking to me last week, it was only on the last day that she wanted absolutely nothing to do with me...not even say thanks or bye.

You are right about one thing though, I was far too nice to her!
 

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Why cant you guys just move on? What do you want from us? "Why didnt she say bye to me?" You wanna cry over it? Sheesh
 

seek&destroy

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Just makes me feel as if I was used, which I was. It's all good..
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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zekko

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seek&destroy said:
Just makes me feel as if I was used, which I was. It's all good..
She wasn't interested in you and made that pretty clear.
I don't see how she was using you.
 

gpshields3

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seek&destroy said:
Yeah I know I messed up..that's not what I needed to hear.

She was fine with talking to me last week, it was only on the last day that she wanted absolutely nothing to do with me...not even say thanks or bye.

You are right about one thing though, I was far too nice to her!

Even if you weren't too nice to her....maybe she just wasn't attracted to you.

You people always forget that! Despite C&F and being too nice and all the PUA stuff, the girl has to be attracted to you. Which this girl wasnt.

Sorry.
 
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