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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

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NC Success Stories?

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So I've started on NC and am almost at the 2 week mark. I'm happy to say that the physical pain of my stomach being in a knot over this girl has pretty much gone away. My question is what are some of your success stories with NC (the girl coming back to you)? How do you act if you happen to see the girl around? i.e walking by on the street or at a party. And how do you proceed if the girl reestablishes contact?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Renegade357

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Hah, you're just having a "good" day. If you are on this forum writing about NC and looking for hope you'll probably be feeling that sick feeling in your stomach again soon.

Want some good advice? Forget her. Move on to the next one.
 

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A true NC "success" story would be pretty boring. Because true success would just be silence, forever. If you're doing NC to get a girl to come back to you, then you are setting yourself up for disaster. Sure, NC works, and if you ignore them long enough, they WILL come back to you, but it's only temporary. Use NC to get your head straight, get over a break-up, and keep your ex from finding out about all the hunnies you're spinning now. :)

-Scars
 

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Hate the game.. said:
So I've started on NC and am almost at the 2 week mark. I'm happy to say that the physical pain of my stomach being in a knot over this girl has pretty much gone away. My question is what are some of your success stories with NC (the girl coming back to you)?
As Scars said, NC doesn't work that way and you have to lower the ego.

When I went NC back in the day. I used to think girls were so in love with me but they just couldn't muster the courage to write me an email to tell how much the miss me and love me. Little did I know while I thought they were missing me the other guy was plowing them.

NC means you won't allow her to be responsible for you feeling good about yourself, not as way to make her realize what she is missing. She knows what she is missing and may or may not care.
 

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To clarify I didn't mean success= her coming back to you. But out of curiosity how often does that happen to you all? I swear I'm already seeing 3 other girls I'm just curious.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Hate the game.. said:
But out of curiosity how often does that happen to you all?

About 60%.

It depends on how much of a connection you had with them. Also depends on how much of a begging loser/a$$ you made of yourself during the break. If you played it cool the whole way and remained "intact" your odds go up.

The deeper your connection the higher chance you have of them coming around again. The 30% that didn't come back never dug me to begin with or found someone new to drain the life out of. The ones who did come back usually either struck out with the guy they wanted after me or just needed validation.

I've never had a girl genuinely come back wanting to work things out.
 

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Hate the game.. said:
My question is what are some of your success stories with NC (the girl coming back to you)?
Success in NC is defined as the time when you quit wondering if she will come back to you.

Basically, there are two kinds of NC and they should never be confused:
  1. NC done early in a relationship to briefly show her that you are willing to walk away/not needy. This could happen if she flakes on the first date, is acting cold, etc. The goal here is to force her to show whether she's interested. If she's not, you move on.
  2. NC done when things go south. This is done not to win the girl back, but to get over the girl and move on with your life. It is also not done to make the girl feel bad, etc. It is done for you so that you can re-prioritize your life and get your **** together. Sometime (rarely) a girl will come back to you when you do this. Don't count on it and start seeing other girls, focus on yourself and your friends, and get on with your life.

EDIT: I should also mention that I went NC about a month ago w/ a girl things weren't working out with. It feels great (really) walking away with my pride intact (no begging for second chances, no text novels, etc, etc). In this time I've put on some muscle at the gym, hung out with my buds, and am meeting new people. Success.
 
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As others have already mentioned, the point of NC is to move on with your life and NOT to "get the girl back".

If you're doing NC in the hopes of getting a girl back, you're starting with a losing strategy from the beginning.
 

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
As others have already mentioned, the point of NC is to move on with your life and NOT to "get the girl back".

If you're doing NC in the hopes of getting a girl back, you're starting with a losing strategy from the beginning.
That is an eye opener for a lot of people.
 
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It's been around a year and it's going great, she has a boyfriend and has moved on and I have moved on, everyone is a winner here. I hope I never have to bump into her, if I do, I'll just carry on as usual, ignoring her as I go about my everyday life.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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