Natalee Holloway

[stuka1939]

I really feel bad for this girls family as they will never know who killed their daughter.

Justice will be served in the next life.

 

[mpimpin]

I've met her parents. Very nice people. Its very saddening the cruel things that can happen in this world

 

[Ken785]

of course we know who killed her...its was that van der sloot guy and those 2 other guys who aren't trying to say anything because they are innocent until proven guilty...

 

[penkitten]

of course we know who killed her...its was that van der sloot guy and those 2 other guys who aren't trying to say anything because they are innocent until proven guilty...

however, it wasn't their male dna on her toothbrush, that she left at her hotel room.

 

[Mr. Wolf]

Once media gets involved in these international cases, sh!t hits the fan. There won't be justice for her family, nor any real closure. Just a scape goat or scape goats, who'll get convicted and spend a lot of time in prison, to make this girl's mother and father feel better.

Fvck media. Fvck TV. Don't ever watch TV, unless it's cartoons.

 

[Mr. Wolf]

They do know who killed their daughter. The Aruban government is just too incompetent to prove it. Joran van Der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe, and Satish Kalpoe left Carlos & Charlie's with Natalee to "party". Natalee snorted too much coke and couldn't handle it, so she overdosed. After she died, Deepak and Satish freaked out, so Joran talked them both into dumping her body into the ocean.

WOW!


I can make a better bull sh!t story..

She got killed on purpose to sabotage Aruba and destroy Aruban tourist industry.


Another one:

She got high and took a swim in the ocean, never to be seen again.




Dumping her body into the ocean instead of street, or emergency room?? Come on! People don't do that, even when they are high on cocaine. But you never snorted, you wouldn't know.


There is no evidence to support that little bull sh!t story.


There is a purpose though and effect. Narrow minded people like yourself now think of Aruban government as "incompetent".. It's now dangerous to go to Aruba, because you could be killed.. WOW.. Better buy ticket to some other place, where they don't kill young girls. Aruba is full of saviges, brothers! They could do drugs with you and next thing you know they take you into the ocean and dump your body.. Better run.

 

[penkitten]

They do know who killed their daughter. The Aruban government is just too incompetent to prove it. Joran van Der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe, and Satish Kalpoe left Carlos & Charlie's with Natalee to "party". Natalee snorted too much coke and couldn't handle it, so she overdosed. After she died, Deepak and Satish freaked out, so Joran talked them both into dumping her body into the ocean.



May I ask how?

unless you personally know by witnessing it, then you know nothing either.
can the united states account for every missing child/adult/body ever through-out it's history? can any other country?
from what i have read, this is the only person that ever came up missing in aruba, and she was a tourist.
for a small island and country with little crime, this was a big thing.
no one is even for sure if she is dead or alive, all anyone knows is that she is missing.
but the news did say that there was male dna on her toothbrush in her hotel room that did not belong to deepak, satish or joran.
who's dna was it?
are we lining up all the mt brook kids and swabbing their mouths?

 

[penkitten]

The Aruban government IS incompetent. They severely botched the investigation from the beginning.
in fact, in aruba, the police are not supposed to leak info to the press, like the twittys did.

according to wikipedia, jug twitty botched it from the start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway
July 2007 Amigoe article

On July 3, 2007, the Dutch Antilliean newspaper Amigoe reported on a documentary video being produced by Renée Gielen, previously best known for exposé documentaries about Curacao's Bon Futuro prison. The video is based in part on interviews with Dompig and with Renfro.

According to interviews done in preparation for the film, Aruban authorities had been systematically obstructed in their investigation by the FBI and other American authorities.[81] They also indicate that within a day of Holloway being declared missing, a medjet, unauthorized by Aruban authorities, had arrived on Aruba and remained for several days. They further indicate that, while the purpose of the medjet was not even known to its crew and medical personnel, it was in fact to spirit Holloway off the island if she were freed from a drug house in Oranjestad, and that Holloway's departure was to be covert and without notice to local authorities.

The article states that the interviews indicate that Renfro and Beth Twitty received a phone call from an unknown woman on June 2, 2005, offering information about Holloway's location and the information that Holloway was still alive but was unwilling to return to her mother for the sum of $4,000. Twitty was unwilling to pay more than $1,000 for the information, and in fact did not pay anything. Believing there was a good chance of finding Holloway, Renfro and another American went to the drug house where Holloway supposedly was, bringing money. However, they found that Jug Twitty had already been to the area, spreading "a lot of uproar and panic in the direct vicinity," and nothing could be accomplished. They blamed Jug Twitty for the failure. The same story, in less detail, appears in the Vanity Fair article.

Further, according to Amigoe's report on the interviews, Aruban authorities were obstructed at the highest level in their attempts to investigate Jug Twitty, and they received very limited cooperation in their attempts to question Holloway's fellow graduates.

Documentary maker Gielen has also raised questions about Holloway's "clean image." According to Gielen, one of Jug Twitty's Aruban chauffeurs reported hearing Twitty and a friend discuss time Holloway spent in a rehab center in the United States shortly before the Aruba trip.[82]

 

[penkitten]

Can't change that now.

your right, it can't be changed now.
it all goes back to... can you stop your 18 yr old from going to another country that allows drinking and partying at that age and getting into trouble?
i wouldn't allow my kids, but could i legally stop them from going ?
at 18?
it's just as well that we don't have enough money for my kids to hop on planes to go on little senior trip vacations, if you know what i mean.

 

[Aboleo]

Dumping her body into the ocean instead of street, or emergency room?? Come on! People don't do that, even when they are high on cocaine.

You might actually want to watch the news instead of cartoons for a while if you really believe that bullsh!t line. Children are raped and murdered, young women vanish and mothers throw their infants into the garbage after strangling them with their own umbilical cords...

Most of the time these monsters are never are caught, much less convicted for the crimes they commit. Hell, 9/10 cases the FBI investigates go unsolved.

But you never snorted, you wouldn't know.

 

[penkitten]

By the way, Penkitten. You quoted me as saying "in fact, in aruba, the police are not supposed to leak info to the press, like the twittys did." I never said that. Not sure where you got that line from.

i wasn't implying that you said that, i was making a point that the twittys can talk how horrible aruba is, but fail to admit when they have done something to leak their own case, and give the news info that was not supposed to be released yet. so if someone wanted to cover tracks, everyone knew in advanced time due to the leaks.

 

[Aboleo]

I think Mr. Wolf might be too busy frolicking in the poppies in the Land of Oz to listen to the truth.

I suspect that maybe Mr. Wolf isn't even human. Instead, I think it's possible that he is a creation conjured up by the moderators of this message board for the purpose of keeping the conversation entertaining around here... that, or he's a moron. One or the other.



Anyways, I feel sorry for the girls' family. If it were my daughter, I'd be on my way to Aruba right now with a very dull knife... if you get my meaning.

 

[Vis a Vis]

Hey, don't hate the messenger. The crucial difference between my story and yours is that mine is backed up by the FBI and the Aruban government. What, you think I would just make that up? This information has already been released.



Strike a nerve, much? Calm thyself. The Aruban government IS incompetent. They severely botched the investigation from the beginning. The police chief has admitted this. This is nothing new.

As far as the tourism situation goes, I have no problem going to Aruba. I have no problem with my DAUGHTER going to Aruba. Would I send her to any foreign country that allows minors to drink and use drugs at the local dive bar without a proper 24/7 chaperone? You must be joking.

Funny how you argue just like Deus ex Pianoforte did. But you couldn't be him considering he was shamefully banned for flaming. :nono:

 

[dietzcoi]

The real question is, why did she go to the beach with these three knuckleheads?

Sound like really poor judgement... was she stupid?

Dietzcoi

 

[Vis a Vis]

Well, for one she was most likely drunk and on copious amounts of cocaine.

She was also very hot for Joran at the time and didn't really exercise the best judgment.

Where are you getting your information? I've searched the net looking to confirm this but I can't find it. So unless you have an inside source on the matter, you spreading misinformation on the thread. :nono:

 

[CrashOverRide]

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