"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mystery's Venusian Art Handbook or Juggler's How to Meet and Connect with Women?

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Which one would suit me better? Im thinking of mostly daygaming since I now live in little rock AR and am under age to go to clubs yet, but pretty soon I will be 18 and may want to leave the town and go back to miami or some big city. mysteries book will probably be more powerful for the city nightlife scene but I also want something I can use when doing groceries or waiting in line somewhere, so I dunno which one should I get first? Mysterys book or jugglers?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I read Juggler's book and thought it was pure gold. Juggler seems to have a genuine approach that I like. I haven't read Mystery's book, but I do also recommend Doc Love's book, "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene, and "The Game" by Neil Strauss.
 
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Yeah, was Juggler the one about "having that strong belief."

Lol, you can also read my thread in the Tips section called, "I have it!"

Guys when can we have some good discussions, shouldn't this "women" topic be over by now, everybody's straight now right?
 

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Juggler preaches trying to make a deep connection with every woman you approach while also having fun with the situation. I think some guys get too caught up with canned material, and they take approaching women too seriously.
 
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