"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Mystery's Venusian Art Handbook or Juggler's How to Meet and Connect with Women?

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Which one would suit me better? Im thinking of mostly daygaming since I now live in little rock AR and am under age to go to clubs yet, but pretty soon I will be 18 and may want to leave the town and go back to miami or some big city. mysteries book will probably be more powerful for the city nightlife scene but I also want something I can use when doing groceries or waiting in line somewhere, so I dunno which one should I get first? Mysterys book or jugglers?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I read Juggler's book and thought it was pure gold. Juggler seems to have a genuine approach that I like. I haven't read Mystery's book, but I do also recommend Doc Love's book, "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene, and "The Game" by Neil Strauss.
 
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Yeah, was Juggler the one about "having that strong belief."

Lol, you can also read my thread in the Tips section called, "I have it!"

Guys when can we have some good discussions, shouldn't this "women" topic be over by now, everybody's straight now right?
 

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Juggler preaches trying to make a deep connection with every woman you approach while also having fun with the situation. I think some guys get too caught up with canned material, and they take approaching women too seriously.
 
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