drummer
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Both Joes are doing very well. They always show the fat one doing great and then just don't mention him after that...
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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That was cold how Pradeep shut Fred out of that set!
I LOVE IT!!! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
I LOVE IT!!! :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
i think that the guy shouldnt have chosen pradeep as a wingman, and just let his ass get eliminated. he ****ing ****blocked that older guy (the older guy shoulda done something about it though, so i dont really feel too bad for him)
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I believe Fred didn't fit into the whole PUA deal. He kept mentioning wanting to find a mate and getting married and stuff.... He wasn't interested in learning how to pickup and seduce women! I don't feel sorry for Fred, he didn't seem too bummed about it, so he'll be just fine!
i love the show and all but i do think its format is flawed
i watched the show, i'm sure with the same reason as alot of other people, to see the transformation from a loser to a pickup artist
unfortunately they're eliminating based on their performances, not on their heart. i know they're looking for a master pickup artist, but i think people wanna see who can improve and change the most
so ultimately what you're gonna get is most of the people staying have better natural game or looks than the ones who get eliminated
joe d might not have the looks but hes already a social and fun guy, what about guys like scott or fred who are almost social retards, i wanna see if its possible for them to transform into a playa coz for me that's more entertaining
i watched the show, i'm sure with the same reason as alot of other people, to see the transformation from a loser to a pickup artist
unfortunately they're eliminating based on their performances, not on their heart. i know they're looking for a master pickup artist, but i think people wanna see who can improve and change the most
so ultimately what you're gonna get is most of the people staying have better natural game or looks than the ones who get eliminated
joe d might not have the looks but hes already a social and fun guy, what about guys like scott or fred who are almost social retards, i wanna see if its possible for them to transform into a playa coz for me that's more entertaining
Victory Unlimited
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I think the show IS entertaining, but like a lot of the rest of you, I wished it were more focused on helping these guys better their INNER game.
Any of you soldiers who have enlisted in THIS Sosuave Army ALREADY know that just learning a series of strategies, techniques, and "methods" (couldn't resist THAT one...lol) are never enough to make A MAN out of any of these boys.
But having said that, I agree that it CAN be used as a starting point----the whole "fake it til you make it" concept. One thing I've noticed about most of the guys on the show is that their self-esteem level seems tied to how well they did on their LAST pickup assignment-----very few of them have seemed to be focusing on internalizing the hidden concepts BEHIND what makes a man attractive to women.
Sometimes I wish I could send THIS message to them:
Confidence is "area" specific. We can be confident in ONE arena of life, and a TOTAL wimp in another. We GAIN confidence by focusing on our PAST successes and INTERNALIZING the positive feelings of self-worth that they have produced. THEN, we take that confidence with us into other areas of our lives, where we then use it as a WEAPON to overcome whatever NEW challenges we are faced with.
But then again, if I could get THAT message across to them, we PROBABLY wouldn't have a show to watch, now would we? lol
March on.
Any of you soldiers who have enlisted in THIS Sosuave Army ALREADY know that just learning a series of strategies, techniques, and "methods" (couldn't resist THAT one...lol) are never enough to make A MAN out of any of these boys.
But having said that, I agree that it CAN be used as a starting point----the whole "fake it til you make it" concept. One thing I've noticed about most of the guys on the show is that their self-esteem level seems tied to how well they did on their LAST pickup assignment-----very few of them have seemed to be focusing on internalizing the hidden concepts BEHIND what makes a man attractive to women.
Sometimes I wish I could send THIS message to them:
Confidence is "area" specific. We can be confident in ONE arena of life, and a TOTAL wimp in another. We GAIN confidence by focusing on our PAST successes and INTERNALIZING the positive feelings of self-worth that they have produced. THEN, we take that confidence with us into other areas of our lives, where we then use it as a WEAPON to overcome whatever NEW challenges we are faced with.
But then again, if I could get THAT message across to them, we PROBABLY wouldn't have a show to watch, now would we? lol
March on.
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My two cents:
Sure we all would like to see the guys with the biggest "issues" make improvements. That would be very inspirational to everyone that has issues, myself included.
But in reality, those who have an advantage going in (more sociable, good looks, ect) have an advantage.
Given time, the guys with issues could make improvement. But that's not what the show is about. This show is about survival of the fittest because of the elimination factor. Now if they never had the elimination aspect, we could see how the guys with issues would improve over time. But that's probably good tv.
Have any of you guys seen Juggler's Seduction School that aired in the UK last fall? Now that show is all about guys overcoming their issues and getting better with women. Though it only had a few episodes. You can view it Youtube if interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYn4-h3Cnk&mode=related&search=
Anyway, back to Mystery's show. I saw part 3 again. Man Pradeep even stabbed the guys in the back during the story telling session by lobbying for votes from the little girls. Pradeep is one sneaky mofo! LOL
Sure we all would like to see the guys with the biggest "issues" make improvements. That would be very inspirational to everyone that has issues, myself included.
But in reality, those who have an advantage going in (more sociable, good looks, ect) have an advantage.
Given time, the guys with issues could make improvement. But that's not what the show is about. This show is about survival of the fittest because of the elimination factor. Now if they never had the elimination aspect, we could see how the guys with issues would improve over time. But that's probably good tv.
Have any of you guys seen Juggler's Seduction School that aired in the UK last fall? Now that show is all about guys overcoming their issues and getting better with women. Though it only had a few episodes. You can view it Youtube if interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYn4-h3Cnk&mode=related&search=
Anyway, back to Mystery's show. I saw part 3 again. Man Pradeep even stabbed the guys in the back during the story telling session by lobbying for votes from the little girls. Pradeep is one sneaky mofo! LOL
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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I hate Pradeep, 1 for the little girl thing and 2 for the wingman thing he did. I think hes next to go. Him or Scott, but at least Scott really does try, I wish he would stop being to serious all the time, he has the detication for it, just NO natural game.
man i love this show!!! i really think its gonna come down to the gay looking blond guy and joe d. i dont know about you, but pradeep and freds set was painful to watch. the awkwardness was brutal. but to be honest ive had those extreme awkward sets before also. i literally felt what these guys must have felt just watching them. i really dont like pradeep. he definitly cheated with the little girls. and hes just a real d!ck. just my 2 cents.
While I understand the viewpoint of wanting to see all of these guys improve, I think it adds an element to the show that forces these guys to go out and do the thing rather then slack off 1 time because they don't feel like it. With the threat of elimination hanging over their heads, it forces them to go out into the field and perform.
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I think the eliminations are ok but they shouldn't purely base it on one thing. Thats unfair sometimes people have bad days. Should base it on everything. Another problem I had was the wingman thing. That rule is stupid, two people get to stay for doing nothing. They could be the worst ones and still get to stay while someone else who was better leaves??? Doesn't sound very fair to me. Also it's going to be really unfair now that there aren't as many guys left. Two wingmen are too much they should change it to one or zero.
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To the guy who said it would be cool if it came down to the two Joes, I think that would be pretty cool. Joe W. was pretty ballsy the way he walked into that set and locked himself in. Nice.
I think Scott should stay a few more rounds. He did way better than Kosmo. Kosmo is such a girly man. And wtf with him suddenly changing his name to kosmo last episode? Maybe next episode he'll change it to Felix. Kosmo is kind of a pretty boy but he has no game.
The set that was painful to watch for me, was Brady. The way that woman turned away from him on the couch was something I can relate to. OUCH
I think Scott should stay a few more rounds. He did way better than Kosmo. Kosmo is such a girly man. And wtf with him suddenly changing his name to kosmo last episode? Maybe next episode he'll change it to Felix. Kosmo is kind of a pretty boy but he has no game.
The set that was painful to watch for me, was Brady. The way that woman turned away from him on the couch was something I can relate to. OUCH
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
One part of me is relieved since they aren't going in enough depth to really percolate this stuff to the main stream. Anyone who has been a student of the game for a long while will still have most of their secrets guarded.
seanchai
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My roommate's mom's hairdresser (whew) is big Joe's mom, and she said he's moving to LA. Now I dunno if that means anything, but I could easily see him going all the way to the top.
The preview for next week showed Scott getting a club makeout I think. I'M SO DAMN EXCITED
The preview for next week showed Scott getting a club makeout I think. I'M SO DAMN EXCITED
the preview for the next show looks terrible. They are going to blind fold a couple of women and those chumps will have to practice kissing them!? lol why the blindfold? so the women won't be repulsed by those guys??
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That is probably the reward challenge. The girl will most likely pick whichever was the best kisser by number. "Number 3 was the best." Then whoever kissed her third wins.DJDamage said:
Now, I wonder what you win for being a good kisser? Extra practice?
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I would of thumped him right in the back of his head and told him "Move along, the adults are talking here."Deus ex Pianoforte said:
But since they know each other and are supposed to be 'wingmen', I'd just get both of us outta there, tell him wutthefux up, and try a new set, without him barging in.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.