"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mystery Method DVDs v.s Deangelo Body Language DVDs

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After reading both Mystery and David's ebook, I found each uniquely informative. Venusian Arts was great as it provided a very comprehensive lowdown on approaching while DYD explained the psyche of being a successful with woman.

I'm now considering getting their video programmes, no reason in particular. I just feel like watching something for once instead of reading.

While I'm into DJing(inner game), I was more inclined towards getting Mystery's because his PUA materials are easily applicable and actually teach you to get girls. David's stuff are overly self-help in nature, which I've already read plenty of through the years.

However, after watching the preview clips on Mystery's site, I found them rather disappointing. I had high expectations since the book was really good, unfortunately it appears to me that it's all there is

As for David, I heard that Advanced is too basic while Mastery focuses alot on the NLP side of things. Which makes me reluctant to part my money on neither. The only two product that interested me was Pick-up in Clubs and Body Language. I finally narrowed down to Body Language because I'm not all that hyped on clubs and videos are ideal for learning body language.


Annihilation Method would have been perfect as I've always seen Strauss as a smart articulated guy and it chronicles both theory and real world practical. Exactly what I'm looking for, a step-by-step guide to watch. It's sold out though, hopefully I'll find it on ebay.

So anyway, if I could only get one set would you guys suggest I go for Mystery's or David's Body Language? Is either any good even?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Go with the venusian artist book first and Body language cds. Mystery is a guess speaker on there and talks alot about kino in it. Overall you will get some good body language advice. Only reason I say don't get the Mystery DVDs now is because I heard it shows different segments not a full break down like the book does.
 
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I already read both Venusian arts and DYD, that's why I'm considering getting a video programme. Anyway cool thanks, I didn't know Mystery's a speaker on Body Language, now I can see them both.

Yeah I found the preview clips of Mystery's DVDs dissapointing.
 
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I'm planning to buy either one of their materials through ebay. Which would you recommend more, david stuff or mystery? They both pretty popular but I don't want to buy both.
 
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Ava Deangelo vs Body Holly DVD?

Yeah I have those. BH's boobs are pretty fake, but all-in-all you can't ask for much more from the 70s.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ROOKIE OF THE YEAR said:
I'm planning to buy either one of their materials through ebay. Which would you recommend more, david stuff or mystery? They both pretty popular but I don't want to buy both.
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I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Mystery's Venusian Arts is more into techniques while David's Double Your Dating is more into mindset. Both their DVD programmes on the other hand seems to focus on mindsets as well. That makes Venusian arts one of the few practical real-world programs and I will recommend it, however some of the content can be gotten free from the PUA forums so that may be a reason not to part with your money.
 
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i think you should check out the body language dvd's first. great stuff! although i think it would have been a more solid program had david d. focused more on voice tone alone
 
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