"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Mystery is a true DON JUAN - he is a pure genius

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ToughLove said:
except the AFC will say it with nervousness and lack confidence, while the don juan will say it smoothly
Yep, but it takes no brain effort to say that a woman is beautiful. A guy can say that to any woman the same way that he could say "you're a female" to any woman. It takes no effort to state the obvious.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Who the hell is mystery?
The most popular pick up artist in the world who has a TV show called The Pickup Artist on VH1. Some say he's the best, but i would have to disagree with that 100%.

I think the whole telling a girl you think she is beatiful thing is relative to the situation...........but most of the time [to me] it sounds generic and overused.
Doesn't matter the situation. Ur cutting to the chase. Its only overused by AFCs who walk up to a girl from the side....now tell me if a suave, charming guy says it right in front of her...would it be overused and unoriginal? ;-)

I would probably tell a girl I like her hair color or her watch, to seperate myself from the 15 other guys who are bound to hit on her.
The only reason u'd be different is because u'd do it with confidence. Those 15 other guys don't do it with confidence(Actually...most guys dont' approach). Girls WANT to be hit on with their looks the right way...its why they look sexy....why else would they? they want to be reminded of how beautiful they are...just that most guys do it in a "Your so beautiful..i wish i could get you" kind of way.

..............although lately I seem to be in a slump.
U'll get out of it.

Why not try direct? and see for urself. U'll be surprised ;-)
 

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Yep, but it takes no brain effort to say that a woman is beautiful. A guy can say that to any woman the same way that he could say "you're a female" to any woman. It takes no effort to state the obvious.
It isn't suppose to require that much effort to do. Many guys just believe that it does.
 

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Fransisco, why should an approach be anything but simple??

and no, the hotter the girl is, the less she gets approached

shje'll get started at and hollered alot though, but not approached cuz most guys are pussies and cant even say ANYTHING
 

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ToughLove said:
Fransisco, why should an approach be anything but simple??

and no, the hotter the girl is, the less she gets approached

shje'll get started at and hollered alot though, but not approached cuz most guys are pussies and cant even say ANYTHING
Thats bullsh!t. Hot women get hit on and approached all the time. Yes, some are too scared to approach but, from being in the field I know from my experience thats false. One thing that seperates us from a AFC is that we know HOW to approach women.

Francisco d'Anconia said:
Yep, but it takes no brain effort to say that a woman is beautiful. A guy can say that to any woman the same way that he could say "you're a female" to any woman. It takes no effort to state the obvious.
Yes, its not what you say, its how you say it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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exactly ToughLove. Girls just get "hit On"...which doesn't necessarily mean a full out approach. The 9-10s rarely get approached. Let alone outside.
 

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Thats bullsh!t. Hot women get hit on and approached all the time.
Nope, they do get approached but not all the time. I personally have experience too. And are we talking about, Broad Daylight or night. As in the day, they don't...but at night..i can agree.

Yes, some are too scared to approach but, from being in the field I know from my experience thats false. One thing that seperates us from a AFC is that we know HOW to approach women.
Yes...thats why we are not the average guy.
 

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exactly ToughLove. Girls just get "hit On"...which doesn't necessarily mean a full out approach. The 9-10s rarely get approached. Let alone outside.
I'm finding more HBs online lately and they tell me that they are mostly hit on by "players" spitting corny pick-up lines. They're online trying to cut through the BS and to be able to take their pick of guys who seem "more real."
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ToughLove said:
Fransisco, why should an approach be anything but simple??

and no, the hotter the girl is, the less she gets approached

shje'll get started at and hollered alot though, but not approached cuz most guys are pussies and cant even say ANYTHING
Simple as walking up to a woman and just saying "Hi, can I call you sometime?" Don't laugh, guys have done it! The conversation should appear simple but guys need to take a moment if only to make it interesting.

You don't need to be able to quote "A Tale of Two Cities" but you at least need to be able to say something memorable. Women tend to enjoy thinking back to when you first meet and recalling what you first said to them. It's a form of intimacy to them.
 

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the question, does the average guy do it? If this was the case, then u'd see it more often then we actually do...but yea, for the guys who usually approach...its usually consists of either indirect, situational or hi kind of openings.
 

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ToughLove said:
why not pimp??

the problem with most guys is they think that they gotta use a specific method to get girls and that just aint true! tell her shes beautiful with confidence and shes urs

Though being yourself is great, complimenting a woman's beauty right off the bat is a ticket straight to "all those other guys that try to hit on me" zone
 

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Hi everyone
I'm new to this forum. I got the idea to find a place like this from reading the book The Game

I was just wondering is Mystery real? And what about the other people in the book? Is it true?

I guess you get a lot of these messages. But i just want to know. Would be very grateful for some answers.

MrSafe
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Kev07 said:
Though being yourself is great, complimenting a woman's beauty right off the bat is a ticket straight to "all those other guys that try to hit on me" zone
It's called a direct opener. The thing is most guys expect to get something out of it, a PUA is just saying it because it's true.
 

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I would beg to differ from my experience ;-). It has to come off as direct, going right up to the front of her, with a confident/warm genuine smile and gazing eye contact. Has to be both, as if u say it without enthusiasm...then thats what u'll get in return. Most guys do it in a "Approval seeking, supplicating"...they don't do it direct...they'll just go to the side. Thats why it doesn't work well if u do it that way.
 

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hahaha...i have to beg to differ even further, the super hot girls have responded better than the not as good looking girls. its like the girls who aren't as attractive don't believe you. In the thread, there have been discussions of "Oh...u'll just be like the 15 other guys who do the same thing" but can u honestly say they do it in a direct, charming, confident way? honestly?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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