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I think it's normal to become a bit jaded with age and experience. I've noticed myself that after getting burnt the first times, I don't fall in love anymore so easily. My emotions are not as strong as they were before, which is both good and bad. Also, I'm far less trusting of women not but unfortunately that seems to be necessary since they tend to lie almost continuously (especially about anything related to dating).
I see this being a pretty popular thing.

I behave a lot differently than this tho.
I can still kinda fall in love easy. By that I mean I give 100% as soon as she appears interesting to me. Even if I have a meeting set with another woman the following day. I don't hold back because I got hurt before. The only thing that changed through time was the amount of bullsh1t I tolerate.

Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, which sounds terrible in this day and age, but it somehow works for me. I am happy and that's what I care about.
 

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Thats what happens with time, women get less pleasable to deal with and less able to bond while they increase their baggage; men on the other side get used to sex and that alone is no longer a motivation to tolerate sub optimal company and people they have nothing in common with.

Dont wanna sound too cinical but good healthy relations happen when the woman is still innocent enough and able to bond while the man is still "naive" and his brain still willing to put up with a certain degree of drama and work.

This happens when a girl before her mid 20s and a guy before his early 30s bond and grow togheter sharing most of high impact experiences togheter wheter its serious dating, having free emotional sex with each other and so on.

When the girl gets pumped&dumped from many chads while using betas for pleasures and the guy is used to see through the bullsh1t and play accordingly, they are no longer able to form a proper couple...even more when she is expiring and he needs peace more than validation.
Man, I'm not looking forward to getting older and meeting 30+ y.o. women.
God, I hope some girl manages to get me out of the market by then. :cool:
 

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Man, I'm not looking forward to getting older and meeting 30+ y.o. women.
God, I hope some girl manages to get me out of the market by then. :cool:
My fwb is 29 and she is emptied out, spent, jaded and has haunting damage. I think she knows herself that she is "done". However that said, just counting their age is not enough at all. She can be spent early, or unspoiled until much later - it depends on who she is. Who she is is what you really have to go by as causative, age is just the correlation/odds.

If you want a wife... Then theres a wall for you as a man too. Because youll be dependent on having women around you who are both unspoiled enough to be wifes, and who Still havent been snatched up. They didn't mention this fine print when they sold you the "red pill life".
 

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My fwb is 29 and she is emptied out, spent, jaded and has haunting damage. I think she knows herself that she is "done". However that said, just counting their age is not enough at all. She can be spent early, or unspoiled until much later - it depends on who she is. Who she is is what you really have to go by as causative, age is just the correlation/odds.

If you want a wife... Then theres a wall for you as a man too. Because youll be dependent on having women around you who are both unspoiled enough to be wifes, and who Still havent been snatched up. They didn't mention this fine print when they sold you the "red pill life".
God bless you!
From what I remembered, you were a smart and balanced guy. What the fk happened, man?
Go get some fresh air, man, you're not ok mentally, throwing some coloured pills insults around and stuff.
Those pills don't exist, it's just a matter of rationalization and hard work. Snap out of that depression. You're better than this.
Life is great.
 

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God bless you!
From what I remembered, you were a smart and balanced guy. What the fk happened, man?
Go get some fresh air, man, you're not ok mentally, throwing some coloured pills insults around and stuff.
Those pills don't exist, it's just a matter of rationalization and hard work. Snap out of that depression. You're better than this.
Life is great.
No insult from me bro. Thanks for the encouraging words.
 

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If you want a wife... Then theres a wall for you as a man too. Because youll be dependent on having women around you who are both unspoiled enough to be wifes, and who Still havent been snatched up. They didn't mention this fine print when they sold you the "red pill life".
Seriously. It is our fault for not taking the time to become socially calibrated in late teens I guess.
 

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Seriously. It is our fault for not taking the time to become socially calibrated in late teens I guess.
You passed up on some girls you would've liked to be with in retrospect?
 

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You passed up on some girls you would've liked to be with in retrospect?
In college yes but I had no game or social calibration, just focused on career. College is really your last chance to be around a lot of high value women, early 20s to a degree if you prioritize it.
 

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In college yes but I had no game or social calibration, just focused on career. College is really your last chance to be around a lot of high value women, early 20s to a degree if you prioritize it.
Yeah if I don't find anyone now throughout university then I can finally put any aspirations of it to rest like you guys have lol. Am not expecting it to happen either, but we'll see.
 
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I like golf actually but it is frustrating haha
me too; its the ultimate mental game. I love the focus you need. I'm going to the driving range tonight to relax.
 

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I do find it best to have an ongoing FWB. I think the most important thing is to not give up resources. It sets a precedence. As long as you refrain from that, she will maintain along that line.

I really like a hot connection. Personally I do not get attached beyond that. So that’s in my favor. I could see one as much as I want and I can guarantee that I will not “fall in love”. I like having feelings for a lover. But it will never go past that. Ever.

Married women are more capable of this arrangement due to her already being fully provided for and also her job. Unfortunately.
 
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me too; its the ultimate mental game. I love the focus you need. I'm going to the driving range tonight to relax.
Have any advice for game improvement irons or otherwise? I want to buy used to keep the cost down bc I don't play enough, but would like a good brand.
 

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Have any advice for game improvement irons or otherwise? I want to buy used to keep the cost down bc I don't play enough, but would like a good brand.
I actually use a noname brand of clubs that was an inexpensive xmas gift from someone. Tonight I'm taking an assortment of drivers to see which ones I like the best. One of them is an old P ing so I'm excited to try that one. (someone wanted me to have their old clubs so I just took a few drivers to experiment with)
It takes me a long time to buy namebrand " good " sporting equipment. Even when my income was triple what it is now, I only ever bought namebrand x-country skiis, not clubs yet.

I grew up with hippy, frugal parents that always bought used from thrift stores for us.

I think C allahan? is supposed to be a good club maker.


As for technique, I remember being more comfortable with a 3 'wood' driver than a 1. I remember using the higher number irons for the long fairway shots after the tee (7 and 8 iron) and a large face putter for the green.

(I haven't played a full round of golf in awhile now....I miss it)
 

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Thats what happens with time, women get less pleasable to deal with and less able to bond while they increase their baggage; men on the other side get used to sex and that alone is no longer a motivation to tolerate sub optimal company and people they have nothing in common with.

Dont wanna sound too cinical but good healthy relations happen when the woman is still innocent enough and able to bond while the man is still "naive" and his brain still willing to put up with a certain degree of drama and work.

This happens when a girl before her mid 20s and a guy before his early 30s bond and grow togheter sharing most of high impact experiences togheter wheter its serious dating, having free emotional sex with each other and so on.

When the girl gets pumped&dumped from many chads while using betas for pleasures and the guy is used to see through the bullsh1t and play accordingly, they are no longer able to form a proper couple...even more when she is expiring and he needs peace more than validation.
Absolutely true. That’s my oneitis. It was the girl sure. But also, in my brain, I just know it won’t be the same anymore with anyone. I was 25 and she was 21 when we met. I was 31 and she was 27 when she split. Such a shame.
 

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I've been talking and dating some women lately, some hit on me and even showed a high-interest level... The more I become better physically and emotionally it gots easier.

But I'm observing those dates, in general, it seems so dirty... Having sex is good for a moment pleasure, but I'm feeling disgusted with how things are going nowadays.

Tired of games, of gold diggers, of liars, committed women that tells that they are single until you find that out, crazy ones...

The fact is, the more I met some women out there and see how things are going, I'm getting sick of it. Not on a point to get married or settle down, cause I don't believe in that anymore. It seems better to be alone and choose carefully even casual dates and sex.

I just see how weird and dirt those things are, and it seems a waste of time. I also understand that it's a natural desire and I will never stop having this desire for sex, cause this is what it is.

Also, when I'm going towards my purposes... I felt energized. But some dates, I went off feeling a low level of energy after that. And of course, a few ones were good... but it's so few dates that I felt a good energy.

With friends, the same... Have some that when we go to hang out is such a great time, the share of ideas and it makes you energized. Also, there are some guys I used to hang out and used to felt drained after that.

Maybe some belief or fantasy is dying inside me, and a new understanding will come... but that's so weird.
Yeah, I can relate to you with what you going through. Kind of feeling the same way. I choose the woman I date carefully as I don't want to be de-railed off my path. I never used to be this careful. I used to just jump in and go for it. After becoming more experienced with woman, I value my time a lot more.

Also beauty and sex no longer has sway over me, I have learned to control my emotions, my thoughts and my desires. I have learned to master my mind and change my thoughts. Before, every woman I would meet, sex was the first thing on my mind, and the last thing. All my thoughts revolved around sex. I came to realize my mind was obsessed with it. For the past several years, I have learned to clear it, life has literally done a 180 in all areas since then.

I value myself and my time so much now, heck I actually value my life, where before I didn't even care if I died.

Now that I have found value and purpose in my life, I no longer take it for granted.

I now do my own tests with woman before I even decide dating them. Watch out for those that suck your energy. The reason why they suck your energy is because your on a higher vibration than they are, you just need to find woman that are on your vibrational level. There not bad people, there just at a different stage in life compared to where you are and they don't resonate with you.

As you grow, your choices get pretty small, its a shame, we are leaving a lot of woman behind, they need to catch up. But I ain't waiting around, I am still learning and growing and will continue to do so until the day I die.
 

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Yeah, I can relate to you with what you going through. Kind of feeling the same way. I choose the woman I date carefully as I don't want to be de-railed off my path. I never used to be this careful. I used to just jump in and go for it. After becoming more experienced with woman, I value my time a lot more.

Also beauty and sex no longer has sway over me, I have learned to control my emotions, my thoughts and my desires. I have learned to master my mind and change my thoughts. Before, every woman I would meet, sex was the first thing on my mind, and the last thing. All my thoughts revolved around sex. I came to realize my mind was obsessed with it. For the past several years, I have learned to clear it, life has literally done a 180 in all areas since then.

I value myself and my time so much now, heck I actually value my life, where before I didn't even care if I died.

Now that I have found value and purpose in my life, I no longer take it for granted.

I now do my own tests with woman before I even decide dating them. Watch out for those that suck your energy. The reason why they suck your energy is because your on a higher vibration than they are, you just need to find woman that are on your vibrational level. There not bad people, there just at a different stage in life compared to where you are and they don't resonate with you.

As you grow, your choices get pretty small, its a shame, we are leaving a lot of woman behind, they need to catch up. But I ain't waiting around, I am still learning and growing and will continue to do so until the day I die.
Just said everything man!

I'm paying a lot of attention on those things. Energy proved to me that is a serious thing and the ones we allow to be around will resonate that energy to you.

Also I found that my guy is a great friend most of times. So I learning to listen to that more times.

Controlling emotions and those sexual desires is not a easy task. But it worth to become more aware and learn to control. It put us on a better position to achieve our goals.
 

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I've been talking and dating some women lately, some hit on me and even showed a high-interest level... The more I become better physically and emotionally it gots easier.

But I'm observing those dates, in general, it seems so dirty... Having sex is good for a moment pleasure, but I'm feeling disgusted with how things are going nowadays.

Tired of games, of gold diggers, of liars, committed women that tells that they are single until you find that out, crazy ones...

The fact is, the more I met some women out there and see how things are going, I'm getting sick of it. Not on a point to get married or settle down, cause I don't believe in that anymore. It seems better to be alone and choose carefully even casual dates and sex.

I just see how weird and dirt those things are, and it seems a waste of time. I also understand that it's a natural desire and I will never stop having this desire for sex, cause this is what it is.

Also, when I'm going towards my purposes... I felt energized. But some dates, I went off feeling a low level of energy after that. And of course, a few ones were good... but it's so few dates that I felt a good energy.

With friends, the same... Have some that when we go to hang out is such a great time, the share of ideas and it makes you energized. Also, there are some guys I used to hang out and used to felt drained after that.

Maybe some belief or fantasy is dying inside me, and a new understanding will come... but that's so weird.
don't feel bad about it , its just the natural order of things ...women are natural plate spinners .
the fantasy inside you was supposed to die, that was the beta dying. it's a part of maturing as a man , realizing the nature of women and accepting it. try not to be disappointed in women , and still love them but never 'FALL'' IN LOVE with them. thats why your purpose energizes because you realize sex is only short term pleasure , its not valuable at all. sex is everywhere. but an investment in yourself is going to grow your self confidence and you will love yourself more and more.

as for male friends go, the guys that drain you should be avoided. not all guys are your friend. soon as you get locked up or go away for a long time they will try to bang your wife or girlfriend then smile in your face, party and freeload off you , etc.

be glad the beta is dying , this is an awakening as a man making you more aware of how things are in reality, you have unplugged from the matrix my friend.

you're on the right path , keep it casual and be careful. luckily the beta died before you got involved with kids or baby mommas, or do you have any?
 

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don't feel bad about it , its just the natural order of things ...women are natural plate spinners .
the fantasy inside you was supposed to die, that was the beta dying. it's a part of maturing as a man , realizing the nature of women and accepting it. try not to be disappointed in women , and still love them but never 'FALL'' IN LOVE with them. thats why your purpose energizes because you realize sex is only short term pleasure , its not valuable at all. sex is everywhere. but an investment in yourself is going to grow your self confidence and you will love yourself more and more.

as for male friends go, the guys that drain you should be avoided. not all guys are your friend. soon as you get locked up or go away for a long time they will try to bang your wife or girlfriend then smile in your face, party and freeload off you , etc.

be glad the beta is dying , this is an awakening as a man making you more aware of how things are in reality, you have unplugged from the matrix my friend.

you're on the right path , keep it casual and be careful. luckily the beta died before you got involved with kids or baby mommas, or do you have any?
Thats true man!

I also have a son (one night fck), it happened before meeting this forum and tha rational male. I would like to meet this place 10 years ago! I would have avoid so many stuffs.

And I can see this beta side dying... So many beliefs that is gone and what I'm learning here opened my eyes in such positive way.

And luckly I never get married. It's hard to deal with the mother of my son, but its not the end of the World. She is a pain in the ass sometimes and keep trying to have sex or get involved with me. Such annoying. But as soon as a move out this town, it would help a lot.

I realized that I cant have so much contact with him for now as he is very young. And staying around his mother and also how my dad is using the situation against me. The best move is to move as far as possible from this town.
 
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