"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My nice guy side not again

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Hi,

I met a girl older than me (25) and sometimes she makes me mad and I don’t know what to do. First she often talks about her problems parents, friends,work..She told me one of her ex treated her like **** but she was 3 years with her ...wtf.When she does that I look away once I told her that I don’t give an f*ck about that and she was mad. Sometimes she wants me to massage her arm and if I don’t she does the baby ohhplease do it thing. The best part is that she stopped smoking when we met and now she started back..She always tell me you will be mad at me I bought another pack…I get really mad…Should I don’t give a f*ck or tell her if you don’t quite you will loose me. At least the good news is that I see her only 1 or 2 times a week like in the dj guide and she’s a hb 8. But the bad part is that I still feel like I am an nice guy even if I made big progress :down:.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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psychgrad

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Dont do anything for her without her doing something for you.

Eg.you will massage her hand only if she gives you a kiss on your cheek or lips, whatever.

When she talks about stuff you dont care about; roll your eyes and pretend your bored or you can pretend your nodding off do this in joking way.

good luck
 

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kevin.
this here is pretty much to be expected of ANY girl you go out with. how long have you been dating? if it's for more than a couple of months, then you really SHOULD be listening to her and being understanding. Now the ex boyfriend probably affects her a lot, but he's not relevant anymore -- if you believe that, then you should SAY IT in a non-confrontational way. don't act like you don't care. that's lame and AFC.
believe it or not, when she gives you the "baby ooh please" ****, she ACTUALLY wants you to say NO. trust me. say no 9 times out of 10. i've had MANY girls tell me that when they whine like that at a guy and he gives in, they KNOW and WILL walk all over him. SAY NO.
man, don't get bent out of shape about it -- i used to. but as women get older, they only get BETTER at this stuff. i've grown to appreciate it--it's a very feminine quality. and once you know how to deal with it, you'll even find the whining cute and kinda sexy.
 

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ok

I am dating her for 2 months now. And what do you think about the smoking part?
 

smoke city

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If it bothers you, you should say so. but you can't change her. and to leave a girl you really like because she smokes -- that's just stupid.
I know a guy who wanted his girl to quit smoking. So he STARTED smoking -- so they could quit together.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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kevin18

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Originally posted by smoke city
If it bothers you, you should say so. but you can't change her. and to leave a girl you really like because she smokes -- that's just stupid.
I know a guy who wanted his girl to quit smoking. So he STARTED smoking -- so they could quit together.
:crackup: lol no disrespect but this is the most dumb thing he could do... Me too I said I will start smoking too but it was only to see how she would react.
 

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lol no disrespect but this is the most dumb thing he could do... Me too I said I will start smoking too but it was only to see how she would react.

it wasn't all that dumb, since it actually WORKED. If you really like a woman, you make last-resort bold moves like this -- take it from me, they love it.
do you think women want a guy who is tough and will hang in for her, or one who can't be there for her because he's to worried about whether he's acting like a "nice guy" or "AFC"?
 

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to leave a girl you really like because she smokes -- that's just stupid.
To leave a girl because she smokes is as good a reason as any, if you're health conscious. Studies show that secondhand smoke is just as likely to be cancer-causing as smoking yourself.
 

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Originally posted by Marlimus
To leave a girl because she smokes is as good a reason as any, if you're health conscious. Studies show that secondhand smoke is just as likely to be cancer-causing as smoking yourself.
I agree, f*ck if the girl is a f*cking chimney I'm not going to stick around for something that will more than likely not be a long-term relationship and risk my health for that sh*t. F*ck that bullsh*t, and, if you are dumb enough to throw your life away (health wise) for some girl thats right f*cked up.

*USE THAT THING IN YOUR HEAD CALLED A BRAIN*
 

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Originally posted by white cloud 8
I agree, f*ck if the girl is a f*cking chimney I'm not going to stick around for something that will more than likely not be a long-term relationship and risk my health for that sh*t. F*ck that bullsh*t, and, if you are dumb enough to throw your life away (health wise) for some girl thats right f*cked up.

*USE THAT THING IN YOUR HEAD CALLED A BRAIN*
That's right, I totally agreed with you. I made it clear never smoke in front of me or in my car or I will kick your sexy ass. ;)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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