"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My Ideal Relationship

bigneil

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This forum is useful but we tend to dwell on the negative and what went wrong. For a change, I thought I'd provide some bullet points regarding the positive and what went right during my most recent relationship.
  • Love at first sight
  • She gave me her number without my asking
  • She called me when I texted her the night we met
  • First date within a few days
  • Kissed goodbye after first date
  • She sent thank-you text after date
  • I avoid her for some time and she chased me
  • Kissed on second date
  • She was true to me during my relocations
  • Had sex on third date
  • Had sex every date thereafter, to the point it became boring to me
  • She wanted commitment after 6 months
  • She claimed I broke her heart by not agreeing to commitment
  • She got on 5 planes to see me
  • We dated 18 months
  • Toward end, when I tried to end it she wouldn’t let me
  • I continued to read her and knew when it was time to end things
  • When we did break up it was mutual
  • I resisted “dump echo” after breakup
  • I never looked back
  • I don’t miss her and don’t want her back.
Perhaps I'm missing something so I appreciate your thoughts (but not if you are a woman who wants to demonize me for not subsidizing her bills forevermore).

Also, what was YOUR ideal relationship?

Merry Christmas!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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stevo

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Many guys would be glad to meet a girl who'd do half of what you mentioned here, she got on 5 planes to see you and you wouldn't commit?

Yeah like you mentioned, you are missing something bro.
 

marmel75

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One where you can buy her love and it actually works?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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This forum is useful but we tend to dwell on the negative and what went wrong. For a change, I thought I'd provide some bullet points regarding the positive and what went right during my most recent relationship.
  • Love at first sight
  • She gave me her number without my asking
  • She called me when I texted her the night we met
  • First date within a few days
  • Kissed goodbye after first date
  • She sent thank-you text after date
  • I avoid her for some time and she chased me
  • Kissed on second date
  • She was true to me during my relocations
  • Had sex on third date
  • Had sex every date thereafter, to the point it became boring to me
  • She wanted commitment after 6 months
  • She claimed I broke her heart by not agreeing to commitment
  • She got on 5 planes to see me
  • We dated 18 months
  • Toward end, when I tried to end it she wouldn’t let me
  • I continued to read her and knew when it was time to end things
  • When we did break up it was mutual
  • I resisted “dump echo” after breakup
  • I never looked back
  • I don’t miss her and don’t want her back.
Perhaps I'm missing something so I appreciate your thoughts (but not if you are a woman who wants to demonize me for not subsidizing her bills forevermore).

Also, what was YOUR ideal relationship?

Merry Christmas!

You got this woman to do a lot for you which in turn resulted in her loving you even more regardless of the fact that you weren't giving her your best shot. You appeared to have done everything right, but you also appear to not understand what 'everything right' is. You had her in love which means you have he wherewithal to have another in love. If you want to learn what the magic bullet is then


Read my post:


"All it takes is two things..."


Read this objectively and you will see how your previous actions exacerbated her love for you. Hindsight is always 20/20 once you understand.
 

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What's dump echo?
Dump Echo is a phenomenon so common that I coined the term. It refers to when a woman ends it with you but then blows up your phone after. We tend to misinterpret this as her implying she actually does care, when in reality she is simply making sure you are still at her disposal. Hence, we must resist this.
 

yungballa

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Love at first sight? If you don't mind me asking, how can you love somebody at first sight? I can be ATTRACTED at first sight, maybe a lil crush, but love?

But, it sounds like yall did have a beautiful beginning. I'd say if she got on 5 planes to see you... she a keeper. I would've committed right there, but hey, the choice is yours. It sounds like this girl possesses som good qualities, though. Wish I had some of those in the girls in my area.
 

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Is this a troll thread?
 
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