"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My girl friend.... ?

slaog

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I have a girl as a friend who is in a relationship. She's looking to branch swing... we have met a few times and she has given me confusing signals. She says things like we're only friends etc and although we dated she insists we're just friends. I met her online and she doesn't have too many friends.

She knows I'm interested in her and after a long talk we decided we shouldn't meet anymore but next day she suggested meeting up sometimes... just as friends. She mentioned going for weekends away too.

She also told me there are lots of men who want to date her and she also said she's looking for love so naturally I'm thinking she likes me but don't know how much. I told her I'm interested in her and also showed her I'm willing to walk away even if it was hard for me to do and I think this has gained me more respect.

At the start she said she didn't think I'd contact her again because i didn't show much interest which is nonsence... she must be a female AFC to think like that.


Anybody have any thoughts or experiance any similar situations? Should I go by her words or actions. I personally always say actions but maybe she does want to be friends??
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Jeffst1980

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Impossible to know for sure without more details on the two of you---i.e. when you dated in relation to her relationship, if you made out with her, if you had sex with her, etc.--but here's my hunch:

She's pulling the "let's meet up as friends" play out of the playbook knowing FULL well that you two will hook up. Of course, she can't outright say that (and neither should you), so this "friends" business gives her a way of saying it "just happened" without taking responsibility. After all, you were "just friends!"

In a TRUE LJBF rejection, a woman usually doesn't want to hang out as friends--it's too awkward and she would feel uncomfortable spending time one on one with a guy that pines for her. LJBF is a REJECTION, not a counter offer. The woman you're dealing with seems to legitimately want to spend time with you--otherwise, she wouldn't bring it up. There clearly is some attraction at play.

She doesn't sound like she's got her s#it together, though, and it would appear that she's a blatant cheater. Personally, I would refuse to do anything with her until she gets that boyfriend out of the picture. Girls like this love the ego boost and drama fix they get from two men fighting over them, but it just complicates things for the new guy.
 

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don't worry about whats coming out of her mouth - the way she acts will tell you where you stand.

stop talking so much with her and "just do it"
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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