"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My GF loves hulked-out guys & Im not 1

pua1989

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hahaha man you reek of insecurity. i have definitely NOT the most cut-up body that girls drool over, yet i can still pull HBs. when the topic comes up of body, they talk about how that guy has "such a nice body." who cares? in the end you are the one boning her. get a grip on yourself
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Warrior74

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Zappati said:
I appreciate all the input & advice, but, for the life of me, I just cant understand the rationale, of some of your thoughts.

Lets say, for the sake of argument, I had been w/only the hottest chicks on the planet, for my entire life & the next woman I ended up dating, weighed 350lbs w/ warts all over her face & I then told her that SHE was exactly what I was attracted to & she gave me a bigger hard -on than any of the hottest chicks on the planet.

Im sorry fellas, but, that woman would have to be the world`s biggest fool to even begin to believe that line of horse****. Cmon now.
Great, now you are finally starting to get somewhere. So your gut is sending off warnings right? Stop trying to hold on to her. Stop arguing about it. Stop spending time/money on her. Make her a FB but don't tell her. Play the game. When you pull back she will do one or two things, chase or release. And I do agree with logical player...you need more women on your team. You're all nutted up over this one because she's smoking hot and she's probably the only woman you have right now. If you roll in circles to meet women like her, then you need to be meeting more women like her. You need to go out on "boys nights" to where more women like her hang out. You need to basically relax, chill and be free, that's probably what attracted her to you in the first place, and now you are acting anything but. Stop worrying about what she likes and worry about what you like, spin some plates and relax. Detach your emotions from the pussay.
 

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Zappati said:
Well....since I last posted, I did meet a woman & weve been goin out for 2 months now & heres my dilemma...

Her ex-husband was roided out & all of her boyfriends, before me, were all pretty much hulked out.

After a month of us dating, she deleted her myspace & facebook ( cuz she said she was happy w/me) but, before she did, I logged onto her accounts ( sue me..im untrusting), cuz I wanted to see for myself, her private reactions/feelings towards all these guys on her pages.

It was just a never ending barrage of photo comments telling all of them how beautiful their bodies were & what she would like 2 do w/ them etc etc etc etc & I obviously dont look like that, or hence, I wouldnt be writing this & to top it all off, she tries to play it off, like, Im just imagining she typed all of this stuff & those arent the types of guys she likes, yadda yadda yadda. Also, when she tells me that IM exactly what she physically likes, in a man, I remind her of how, all the guys she had on her page that were of my body type, she never left ONE single photo comment to & she always come up w/ some bull**** excuse as to why she didnt.

Now, all of this has caused fights on top of fights, but, in all sincerity, how can you EVER trust or feel comfortable w/ a woman, whom you KNOW is solely attracted to something that your NOT.

...Actually...& this is no joke...she was a former Penthouse Pet & now models for Fredericks of Hollywood...

Assuming all of this is true, obviously it does not require self-esteem to land a hot girl.

As oua1989 said, you reek of insecurity. Logging onto her myspace & facebook? Demanding that she repeatedly profess her attraction to you? Your behavior is at about a junior-high school level of maturity.

You have to stop caring what some bimbo you're dating thinks, as well as, for the most part, what everyone else thinks of you. Why does it matter? It shouldn't. When you get over your own insecurities, you will find women to be a lot more attracted to you, and the fear of that not happening was what you were insecure about in the first place.
 

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If she's not at all that serious with you but you are with her, you are going to end up hurting.

The person least invested in the relationship has the most power. It really sounds like she's got you by the balls with her having her cake and eating it too.

Have you tried flipping the script with her? Start checking out other hotties and don't be discrete about it. When she starts complaining just say you're gonna start people watching like she does. If she gives you crap or starts to try shaming you, bring out my lovely line "How would you feel if...?"
 

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Zappati said:
Well....since I last posted, I did meet a woman & weve been goin out for 2 months now & heres my dilemma...

Her ex-husband was roided out & all of her boyfriends, before me, were all pretty much hulked out.

After a month of us dating, she deleted her myspace & facebook ( cuz she said she was happy w/me) but, before she did, I logged onto her accounts ( sue me..im untrusting), cuz I wanted to see for myself, her private reactions/feelings towards all these guys on her pages.

It was just a never ending barrage of photo comments telling all of them how beautiful their bodies were & what she would like 2 do w/ them etc etc etc etc & I obviously dont look like that, or hence, I wouldnt be writing this & to top it all off, she tries to play it off, like, Im just imagining she typed all of this stuff & those arent the types of guys she likes, yadda yadda yadda. Also, when she tells me that IM exactly what she physically likes, in a man, I remind her of how, all the guys she had on her page that were of my body type, she never left ONE single photo comment to & she always come up w/ some bull**** excuse as to why she didnt.

Now, all of this has caused fights on top of fights, but, in all sincerity, how can you EVER trust or feel comfortable w/ a woman, whom you KNOW is solely attracted to something that your NOT.
I think your focus is WAY too much on your girl. Why not focus on yourself? See, I'm a fairly skinny guy too. and I tend to get insecure about my weight b/c it's just frustrating. So I started hitting the gym to solve my skinny problem. Now, I'm eating 2x to 3x as much food per day, and I'm a eating & sh*ting machine. My confidence is higher, and I'm seeing results in the mirror.

My Suggestion: Work on the insecurity instead of working on her. Honestly man, someone made a great point on this board: you'll end up breaking up or married. Those are the only two possibilites. Now think about that?? You need to improve yourself man. Nothing works faster than finding an insecurity, focusing on it, and feeling great about your progress and results.

Don't try to overanalyze the problem. Find a solution QUICKLY and get started! Plus, working out will make your work and house tasks much easier, carrying stuff is a breeze, more respect as you walk around the city, better sports performance, better sex performance, I could go on but you know what I'm saying!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I think you are being too insecure wit yourself

look at you. you are the one with this chick now. not some beefy hulked out guy, but you. you say you have a good relationship and she likes you, yes YOU, so why should it matter if she like Hulked out guys? i'm sure you check out hot chicks when you see them, and you would agree that checking out if generally harmless. she was disrespectful to do it infront of you, but i would not count a huge strike against her just because she physically appreciates another man. do her one better, agree with her, that'll throw her a loop

as for the comment thing....that's different. i don't know what to say about that one...talk to her..don't fight, but talk

but all in all, have more confidence in yourself. she likes you now, so be you, the person that she likes now

Personally my gf Goes Gaga over guys who can sing, and has dated singers in the past. I know how it feels bro, i felt it before too. I have a terrible singing voice, i sound like someone dying.

but she loves me now and that's all that matters. She likes my speaking voice, she thinks it's sexy. that's what makes me, me. screw what she saw in other guys. be you. she obviously like something in you that she didn't see in other guys, or is more valuable than big muscles

have more confidence in yourself man. that's what's causing problems. your insecurity.
 
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