"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My game vs her game

Vincent Freeman

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I have been currently hanging out with this HB I met the other day at a coffee shop and she seems to be a little different than the rest of the chics I have picked up or even dated. By far, this girl is the greatest challenge. She's not only successful (in her career) but she is also very attractive and gets attention every where she goes. However, despite the fact that she probably knows that guys want her, she's actually very genuine and doesn't act like an AW. Now, I was able to lure her over to my corner, however, I was wondering if I could get some advice in how to close the deal and get her head over heels. I was obviously able to spark the interest, but, I would like to know some of the stuff you guys would do to get this girl crazy about you. Pretty much, to conquer her own game which she tries to challenge me with. Let me know what you all think.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Bad Ass Canadian

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You got me confused.

What exactly IS the problem?


The only thing I can say right now is get her number and ask her out..... You never told us if you've already done that. You're treating this like some silly game where you try and outdo eachother or something. It's kinda funny, actually.

I'm confused
 

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Originally posted by blueangel83
Kiss her ass. Compliment her, be overly nice to her, be a gentleman, crack a few jokes (make sure they're not corny and are original).
R U serious?
 

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Actually, we have gone out twice. But nothing huge...the park and a coffee shop. It was more of a date to get to know each other as oppose to activity date. However, like I stated earlier, on this next date I want to step things up. Get her totally into me despite her challenging game. Pretty much I hope to raise up the kino and get her craving for more by the end of the date. What you think?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Try to initiate physical contact already also.Women like that aren't used to guys being straightforward so soon.


Treat her nice(like you should all women unless they force you otherwise) ...but let her know what you want.That will make put you in her "Real Man" category instead of "Guys I know/kiss my ass" club.
 

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Originally posted by blueangel83
Kiss her ass. Compliment her, be overly nice to her, be a gentleman, crack a few jokes (make sure they're not corny and are original).
*tisk tisk tisk*...you owe me some money for reading that mess.
 

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simple dont kiss her ass like everyone else. I got in a ltr with a girl that had everyone kissing her ass. I acted like a d1ck a lot to her at first im not saying do this but it does work. When i slept in her bed i didnt even try to fvck her for a while. she would keep on calling me up to come over and sleep with her. I think you gotta be her friend first but also let her know what you want but let her do the work shes not use to doing that. And for my story my game kinda of fvcked me over I eventually fvcked her but later on she ended up fvcking someone else probably to get me back so just be careful. I forgave her in began a ltr with her. if she wants to fvck say no the first time then your money. bottom line dont try to hard and be different from every other guy.
 

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You should treat this women nice and start building towards something.

Don't listen to these guys they don't know what they're talking about.


If you guys had any women.....why don't you post your pics?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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