"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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My funny story, and why NOT to overthink things

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Y'all may have heard about the hb8 i banged last month who i was into?

Well anyway we banged, all was good and in the morning she randomly went cold and left in a hurry

I asked around the good ol' "manosphere" and got fantastic tips like "the sex probably wasn't good enough, NEXT" and "NEXT" and "go NC"and "go mgtow" and all the usual, etc etc

Even though in my mind i knew the sex was good and something didn't seem right, and she was still giving IOI's i took the advice and nexted

next few weeks was me feeling ****ty and knowing that something wasnt right.

Well eventually in spite of manosphere advice, last night I REACH OUT.. because i realized i was acting a **** and I said "you should come over and we can finish that movie" (that we watched half of before hooking up

she comes over and we hook up, its amazing, afterwards she's even brings up the exclusive tag (but I'M not ready yet) then we have a little chat about the past month

I ask why she left so sudden and acted weird, wondering to myself "what was it that caused this month of ****"

her answer?

"i needed to poop and didnt wanna do it in your house"
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Y'all may have heard about the hb8 i banged last month who i was into?

Well anyway we banged, all was good and in the morning she randomly went cold and left in a hurry

I asked around the good ol' "manosphere" and got fantastic tips like "the sex probably wasn't good enough, NEXT" and "NEXT" and "go NC"and "go mgtow" and all the usual, etc etc

Even though in my mind i knew the sex was good and something didn't seem right, and she was still giving IOI's i took the advice and nexted

next few weeks was me feeling ****ty and knowing that something wasnt right.

Well eventually in spite of manosphere advice, last night I REACH OUT.. because i realized i was acting a **** and I said "you should come over and we can finish that movie" (that we watched half of before hooking up

she comes over and we hook up, its amazing, afterwards she's even brings up the exclusive tag (but I'M not ready yet) then we have a little chat about the past month

I ask why she left so sudden and acted weird, wondering to myself "what was it that caused this month of ****"

her answer?

"i needed to poop and didnt wanna do it in your house"
Nothing is black or white in life

This forum seems to forget it

You shown that making a move, you'll get a reaction, in this case it went your way... you win

At the same time, she was probably wondering why you werent following and you were curious... you needed to know and you got laid

In short, if you don't ask, you'll never know. Unless you get a straight NO or she act like a ghost... why would you ever give up communications until you get your way

Good job
 

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Infern0- I'm guessing she took a dump before coming over this time? :) haha
 

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So why didn't this girl try and get a hold of you after she went home to take a dump the first time? She let a month go by! Do you really believe her "schitty" excuse? That's a long time for a girl that talks about having an exclusive relationship so soon with a guy she barely knows.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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A girl that doesn't contact for a month, but then comes over, has sex and says she didn't contact you cause she was gonna take a dump is at least unstable and at the very worst case, a possible and probable headache in your life that you can avoid. If you like the sex, keep on, but don't exclusive with this one. Just my 2 cents
 
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Y'all may have heard about the hb8 i banged last month who i was into?

Well anyway we banged, all was good and in the morning she randomly went cold and left in a hurry

I asked around the good ol' "manosphere" and got fantastic tips like "the sex probably wasn't good enough, NEXT" and "NEXT" and "go NC"and "go mgtow" and all the usual, etc etc

Even though in my mind i knew the sex was good and something didn't seem right, and she was still giving IOI's i took the advice and nexted

next few weeks was me feeling ****ty and knowing that something wasnt right.

Well eventually in spite of manosphere advice, last night I REACH OUT.. because i realized i was acting a **** and I said "you should come over and we can finish that movie" (that we watched half of before hooking up

she comes over and we hook up, its amazing, afterwards she's even brings up the exclusive tag (but I'M not ready yet) then we have a little chat about the past month

I ask why she left so sudden and acted weird, wondering to myself "what was it that caused this month of ****"

her answer?

"i needed to poop and didnt wanna do it in your house"


Sounds like she ran out of options and since you didn't chase her like most guys do, when you reached out, she wasn't thinking "oh yeah inferno. I remember him."

You didn't chace. You were a challenge and didn't realize it. She was willing to give it another shot because you weren't needy. She doesn't know if she has any kind of hold on you or not because you were not needy and didn't chase to to test the waters she asked you to be exclusive to see how you would react.

Keep up the good work.
 
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Just goes to show it can be anything...ANYTHING.

You always have to take the forum advice and then make your own decisions based on the situation. You are the only one who knows the situation IRL. Hilarious.

Good for you on leading and reaching out. Seems to have worked out well.
 

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It also explains that brown stuff on your dik.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Ironic how @Infern0 creates a thread about why not to overthink things and half the responses are men overthinking things lol
I dont get the hostility or overthinking either lol.

Guys have to follow with they preach...shows how contradicting life/ this forum can be.

Inferno made à threat all hell break lose... hence Inferno the name.

Inferno proved with action and intent à wiling woman will move (no matter her reasons)

Is she LTR material... damaged etc.. only him and his expérience with her can tell. Maybe they are signs... however who care if the goal is a ONS. Hé got what hé want!

Hopefully, hé is wise to not make à mistake in choosing his LTR woman.

But for this case, thumbs up
 

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Nothing is black or white in life

This forum seems to forget it

You shown that making a move, you'll get a reaction, in this case it went your way... you win

At the same time, she was probably wondering why you werent following and you were curious... you needed to know and you got laid

In short, if you don't ask, you'll never know. Unless you get a straight NO or she act like a ghost... why would you ever give up communications until you get your way

Good job
Correct.

Everyone on here assumes she didnt contact me for a month, incorrect, she did.

However i wasnt being direct due to the bad advice i recieved. But its funny how the mentality once again goes to she must be a ho, playing games, lacking interest or whatever.

Point im tryna make is sometimes the "game" ****s you up and you just have to do what seems right to you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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