"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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My friend is Way Beyond AFC, need help

GoodButNotGreat

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Hey guys, well my friend is a 2nd year in college along with me. I've known him for over a year now and he has never kissed a girl. He barely has any friends, and right now he has 0 girls who he would ever have a potential with. His main problem is that he can't hold a conversation, he is socially awkward at times, and I've given him tips on how to make friends and meet people.

My background/credentials:

I came to this site a year ago after realizing that I was not happy with the success I've gotten with women. I read tons of articles and TR's, and practiced numerous methods to create my own unique touch. Since then, I've gotten more friends, and had much more success with the ladies.

I quit using the site for quite some time, and have now rejoined to figure out how to help my friend out. I've tried so many times and he realizes that he needs help but always comes up with excuses why he isn't pursuing his goals. I feel that I need to inspire him to get to a level that I am at, however he needs his own style to it. Has anyone else been in a similar situation with a friend? Because at this point I am on my last limb of helping him, and am sick of his lack of effort. Plz help.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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619joe

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Give him someone to look up to.I swear man go on youtube and search Keys to the VIP.Have him watch ALL the episodes.I mean just seeing how others do it who have some game atleasts gives him an insight on what to do.

He is probably insecure bout something maybe his look/physique.Give him hints about how to improve that or maybe his style.Have him be friends with people who have game or maybe even let him watch you talk with some girls
 

drak_ool

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GoodButNotGreat said:
he realizes that he needs help but always comes up with excuses why he isn't pursuing his goals.
if your friend isn't 100% convinced that he needs to change, there is nothing you can do to help him.
if your friend isn't 100% convinced that the PUA's way is the WAY to get girls, there is nothing you can do to convince him.

I m done trying to help out guys who have NO clue with girls unless they themselves ask me to help them because it s usually a waste of time. And when i run into a friend who laughs at the PU teachings and questions their validity, i just don't argue anymore because it s pointless.

ok, now here s some positive thoughts for you. The best way to help your friend is to: 1) send him to a PU website that has a good beginner section (the DJ bible on this site is perfect). If your friends believes that his chances with women will improve by becoming a PUA, then you re on the right track
2) be a role model for him. Trying to give him cold advice will backfire, he ll think you re patronizing him. But if he sees that you have success with girls time and time again, he ll start asking you for tips and he will see that there is "a light at the end of the tunnel"
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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dopexile

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Uhm... your friend isn't genuinely interested in changing himself. Why are you posting on his behalf? If he was motivated and willing to learn he would come here himself.

You can help people out but you can't push them through doors. As fun as the techniques on this forum are, it's not for everybody. Maybe he's not ready to change or maybe he's just happy with who he is... and you have to respect that even if you have a better life planned out for him.
 
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