"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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My friend is Way Beyond AFC, need help

GoodButNotGreat

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Hey guys, well my friend is a 2nd year in college along with me. I've known him for over a year now and he has never kissed a girl. He barely has any friends, and right now he has 0 girls who he would ever have a potential with. His main problem is that he can't hold a conversation, he is socially awkward at times, and I've given him tips on how to make friends and meet people.

My background/credentials:

I came to this site a year ago after realizing that I was not happy with the success I've gotten with women. I read tons of articles and TR's, and practiced numerous methods to create my own unique touch. Since then, I've gotten more friends, and had much more success with the ladies.

I quit using the site for quite some time, and have now rejoined to figure out how to help my friend out. I've tried so many times and he realizes that he needs help but always comes up with excuses why he isn't pursuing his goals. I feel that I need to inspire him to get to a level that I am at, however he needs his own style to it. Has anyone else been in a similar situation with a friend? Because at this point I am on my last limb of helping him, and am sick of his lack of effort. Plz help.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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619joe

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Give him someone to look up to.I swear man go on youtube and search Keys to the VIP.Have him watch ALL the episodes.I mean just seeing how others do it who have some game atleasts gives him an insight on what to do.

He is probably insecure bout something maybe his look/physique.Give him hints about how to improve that or maybe his style.Have him be friends with people who have game or maybe even let him watch you talk with some girls
 

drak_ool

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GoodButNotGreat said:
he realizes that he needs help but always comes up with excuses why he isn't pursuing his goals.
if your friend isn't 100% convinced that he needs to change, there is nothing you can do to help him.
if your friend isn't 100% convinced that the PUA's way is the WAY to get girls, there is nothing you can do to convince him.

I m done trying to help out guys who have NO clue with girls unless they themselves ask me to help them because it s usually a waste of time. And when i run into a friend who laughs at the PU teachings and questions their validity, i just don't argue anymore because it s pointless.

ok, now here s some positive thoughts for you. The best way to help your friend is to: 1) send him to a PU website that has a good beginner section (the DJ bible on this site is perfect). If your friends believes that his chances with women will improve by becoming a PUA, then you re on the right track
2) be a role model for him. Trying to give him cold advice will backfire, he ll think you re patronizing him. But if he sees that you have success with girls time and time again, he ll start asking you for tips and he will see that there is "a light at the end of the tunnel"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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dopexile

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Uhm... your friend isn't genuinely interested in changing himself. Why are you posting on his behalf? If he was motivated and willing to learn he would come here himself.

You can help people out but you can't push them through doors. As fun as the techniques on this forum are, it's not for everybody. Maybe he's not ready to change or maybe he's just happy with who he is... and you have to respect that even if you have a better life planned out for him.
 
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