"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My friend is an actual 40 year old virgin. How should he go about setting up his first time?

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Imagine you were coming off the longest dry spell you'd ever gone through in your life. How would you break your sex fast? You would do something special right? Something done with consideration of the fact that you haven't had sex in a long, long time? If you were coming off a long food fast, your first meal would be chosen considering how you hadn't eaten in a long time, so I imagine the same would go for sex. How do you make up for all of those wasted years?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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He can go to asia and use jbw.
But is that ideal?

I think I might be accidentally implying that he has trouble getting laid. I'm not necessarily saying that, what I'm asking is, if you had your say, how would you break a sex fast of many years?
 

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But is that ideal?
Yeah. You have not seen the memo. Your friend is probably sub 5 otherwise he would have met someone on Tinder already. Even chadlites are crying about feeling underappreciated by fat hb5s and 6s and male sexlessness is much higher now than before. Your friend does not even make the news. Asia is the best bet, or use the jbw card with an ethnic.
 

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Imagine you were coming off the longest dry spell you'd ever gone through in your life. How would you break your sex fast? You would do something special right? Something done with consideration of the fact that you haven't had sex in a long, long time? If you were coming off a long food fast, your first meal would be chosen considering how you hadn't eaten in a long time, so I imagine the same would go for sex. How do you make up for all of those wasted years?
Talking about a "dry spell" is an apples to oranges comparison for a guy who is 40 years old and is a virgin. Why is he still a virgin at that age? I think we have to know that to give advice on this.

That said - His best bet will be to simply act like he has had sex before. He needs to go on some dates and have confidence in who he is and get the girl back to his place or hers. From there, hopefully he knows how things work. Under no circumstances actually tell the women he is a virgin. That will likely end any date he is on on the spot given his age. The women will automatically assume something is wrong with him.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Imagine you were coming off the longest dry spell you'd ever gone through in your life. How would you break your sex fast? You would do something special right? Something done with consideration of the fact that you haven't had sex in a long, long time? If you were coming off a long food fast, your first meal would be chosen considering how you hadn't eaten in a long time, so I imagine the same would go for sex. How do you make up for all of those wasted years?
He should go to Amsterdam and bang every hooker there.
 

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But is that ideal?

I think I might be accidentally implying that he has trouble getting laid. I'm not necessarily saying that, what I'm asking is, if you had your say, how would you break a sex fast of many years?
Use a business-class, well-reviewed, good attitude college-aged (18-22 y/o) escort at a hotel. Do not go with low-class/Amsterdam or seedy hookers.
 

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He needs to go to another country where his SMV is high and he can feel like a chad there and maybe find someone. Its better to be desired by an ethnic hb 8+ than dumpster-driving with a woman that would be over entitled and have a bad attitude anyway because she has social media and maybe slept with a chad here and there as well. There is no such thing as slumpbuster in 2021 without losing your dignity.
 

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Yeah. You have not seen the memo. Your friend is probably sub 5 otherwise he would have met someone on Tinder already. Even chadlites are crying about feeling underappreciated by fat hb5s and 6s and male sexlessness is much higher now than before. Your friend does not even make the news. Asia is the best bet, or use the jbw card with an ethnic.
Your friend needs to find a slumpbuster. From Urban Dictionary -

When someone is having trouble getting laid, they're in a slump. When you're in a slump, you need an easy score to get your confidence back up and break the slump - a slumpbuster. Often this means lowering your standards, and sleeping with someone you would never otherwise associate with.
Talking about a "dry spell" is an apples to oranges comparison for a guy who is 40 years old and is a virgin. Why is he still a virgin at that age? I think we have to know that to give advice on this.

That said - His best bet will be to simply act like he has had sex before. He needs to go on some dates and have confidence in who he is and get the girl back to his place or hers. From there, hopefully he knows how things work. Under no circumstances actually tell the women he is a virgin. That will likely end any date he is on on the spot given his age. The women will automatically assume something is wrong with him.
Okay, forget my friend for a second, let's say you were coming off an incredible dry spell. If you had your say, if you could make it happen regardless of the odds, and it had been many months/years since you had sex, how would you break your sex fast?

He should go to Amsterdam and bang every hooker there.
Is this what you'd do?

Use a business-class, well-reviewed, good attitude college-aged (18-22 y/o) escort at a hotel. Do not go with low-class/Amsterdam or seedy hookers.
Is this what you'd do?
 

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Okay, forget my friend for a second, let's say you were coming off an incredible dry spell. If you had your say, if you could make it happen regardless of the odds, and it had been many months/years since you had sex, how would you break your sex fast?



Is this what you'd do?



Is this what you'd do?
I would simply set up a date with a woman and try to close on the first date. I would feel pretty confident I could smash a woman that is 1-2 points SMV below me pretty quickly. But again, a long dry spell and being a virgin at age 40 are not even remotely the same thing. To quote Pulp Fiction, it isn't even the same ball park. Not even the same sport.

In your friend's case, just tell him to hop onto OLD and start swiping. He is bound to get something (and by this I mean a very low SMV woman) unless he is just downright hideous to look at. Like I said, I think we need more information as to why he is a virgin at age 40. Is it looks, religious convictions, a combination of the two, etc?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Okay, forget my friend for a second, let's say you were coming off an incredible dry spell. If you had your say, if you could make it happen regardless of the odds, and it had been many months/years since you had sex, how would you break your sex fast?


Is this what you'd do?

I've been in a dry-spell for 7 years and counting.
 

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I've been in a dry-spell for 7 years and counting.
I remember you lived with some elderly parents who you were concerned about - which I get. Keep in mind that most dating sites actually let you list whether you are vaccinated or not. So you could still be looking for dates that way. I wouldn't limit yourself. Not sure how you can go 7 years without getting laid. That is brutal, brother.
 

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I've been in a dry-spell for 7 years and counting.
Let's say you had absolute power, nothing was any object. You could scratch your 7 year itch right now. How would you do it? How would you take your revenge for the 7 years of sex you were denied?
 

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Okay, forget my friend for a second, let's say you were coming off an incredible dry spell. If you had your say, if you could make it happen regardless of the odds, and it had been many months/years since you had sex, how would you break your sex fast?



Is this what you'd do?



Is this what you'd do?
No, I wouldn't wait until I was 40. Maybe 20 at the latest. But if I did, I would probably go somewhere like that and choose a woman that I thought was a 10 out of 10.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Let's say you had absolute power, nothing was any object. You could scratch your 7 year itch right now. How would you do it? How would you take your revenge for the 7 years of sex you were denied?
Change myself into a chad and use a tinder app. I'd also make myself 25 years younger and ripped while I'm at it.
 

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Give this guy some real advice. Don't tell his friend to fly to other countries to get laid.

OP, have your friend do what I said.
It is real advice. Is that girl in your photo supposed to be "really hot"?

I've fvcked 2 hotter girls than that in the past 3 days. (In the red-light district of Geneva Switzerland). And about 100 hotter in my lifetime.

You think your "gutter game" nonsense is real advice? Or worrying about what kind of watch to wear?
 

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So it's not about the sex, it's about being desirable?
I realize you're new here...

But you're asking the wrong guy for advice. Corrector is a known time waster here who constantly complains about race and Jesus and whatever other nonsense he can come up with.
 

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Okay, forget my friend for a second, let's say you were coming off an incredible dry spell. If you had your say, if you could make it happen regardless of the odds, and it had been many months/years since you had sex, how would you break your sex fast?
What is the worth of the info what seasoned guys here would do?

It doesnt work like that....... your 40y.o. virgin is not going to pull off what most of the guys here could do even with a year of abstinence.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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