"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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my first thread: how do you WIN the game?

el torro

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hi, everyone, have been observing this website for about 6months building up my inner game and confidence and reading the successes of bootcamps and the views in the DJ bible. I started off with D,D, ****y&funny but felt i needed more and so i just signed up today.

not really sure how to use a message board but i'll give it ago and hope i can lean a few things and hopfully teach a few things too.

anyway,

id like to ask a question...... realising that there are rules/guides to how to play games, i thought i'd check this out from a womans perspective and i found that the rules of attraction work both ways and some of their rules would conflict and make harder for us budding DJ's

my question is this......

if we're playing games.... how do we know who wins? is the victor the one who can force the other to give up their power in the relationship?

and what happens if you get a guy and girl who like each other but when they get home the guy goes on sosuave and the girl goes to some female equivilant and they both end up not going out because their too busy playing games with each other, eg playing hard to get/being a challange?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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How do we know who wins??

the guy wins if he gets layed!

the girl wins if you dont get layed and she gets your credit card!
 

el torro

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catch:

"How do we know who wins??

the guy wins if he gets layed!

the girl wins if you dont get layed and she gets your credit card!"

hahahahahahah thats good but, what about the deeper game? when its not just sex your after, but to win her heart? i thought this was the essence of being a don juan? making love to her mind as well as her body? (not to sound too AFC)

or is it all about sex?
 

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oh, you want to go deep....

deep into the art of mental seduction we shall go...

if your not just looking for sex, your looking to seduce the mind of women then don juan is the birth place of such an interest.

such a wide topic, i barely know where to start infact!

maybe with, the beginning of a seduction where the main target is to gain the curiosity and stir the desire of your victim?

or the leway into the middle of your web, where you lever the heart and leve her lost in an illusion of love, desperate for answers she hoplessly falls into a one way river of interest and lust!

or the end, when the bold move is skillfully adapted to the weakness of your target, the desire for pleasure!

there is only one that can win el torro, the seducer...
what you must ask is, who is the one being seduced?
 
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