"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My first successful approach.

E-Train

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Okay, so this happened today, and I used my own original pick-up line, too.

I was sitting at the local coffee house with my cousin and brother, and there was a decent looking girl about my age sitting there. My brother was nagging me to talk to her. She finished whatever she was doing, and was just kind of standing around waiting for her ride, so I grabbed my book, Physics: Foundations and Frontiers, and walked up to her.

I said "Excuse me." and she turned around. I flipped the book open to a page displaying books stacked in such a way that the top (fifth) book in the stack was overhanging the edge of the table by atleast a full book's length. I pointed at the picture and said, "Did you know that you could stack books like that?" she said "Wow, that's really cool." and I said.. "With knowledge of physics, you can." I clapped the book shut and stuck out my hand, introducing myself. She shook my hand and said "Hi," and told me her name. At this point I walked back over to my brother and told him my line worked, then I explained to the girl that it was a pickup line, and asked her if it worked. She agreed with me that it did, in a light hearted and friendly manner.

This was my first attempt, and I consider it a success. Any advice or comments?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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familyguyfan

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Good job. I personally wouldn't have asked her if it worked, but oh well, what matters is that you approached her and that she responded positively.

Next time try for a number.
 

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so...? did you get the #? it sounds like you should have went for the #, but you didnt - insted you told her you were just trying to see if you could pick up a chick - ?.... shoulda asked for the # - -- you got that far and then just stopped.. come on man!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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diablo

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Good job in actually making an approach and initiating a conversation with a girl that you didn't know. However, there were several things that I believe you would benefit by working on. First, what was said - you went in with closed questions; she really didn't have a way to get the conversation rolling. Try to stay away from "yes/no" questions... "Did you know you could do this?" is definitely one of them. Not to mention (and no offense) but the "With a knowledge of physics, you can!" sounds rather... well, I'll let you imagine. It's a coffee shop, not a classroom or science convention! Swapping names is pretty much a given; if you walk up to just about anyone and say "Hi, I'm Soandso, what's your name?" you're bound to get a response.

Walking back to your clique after introducing yourself was a boneheaded move. Walking over to her and saying "This was a pickup line. Did it work?" was even worse. If you're going to use lines, realize that there is only one way to see if they worked... and that's by picking (or not picking) the girl up! Although she said that the line worked, her actions and the end results say otherwise - you didn't pick her up, you didn't get her number, and you won't be seeing her again. However, hopefully this will show you just how easy it is to go up to a strange girl and introduce yourself... I recommend you do this at least twice tomorrow (no excuses) and let us know the results. Don't expect miracles overnight, but also understand that you won't have any success if you don't make the effort. Good luck, and welcome to the forum.
 

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Thanks for the advice/suggestions. I'll definitely do better next time.

The line I used was actually a joke. I never expected to actually use it. But in any case, I think I will see her again, as she's supposed to be there every tuesday. If I do I'll talk to her again.

I know I made a few mistakes, but I'll work on that.

Thanks again, guys.
 

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I was joking with a friend about going up to a HB and saying "hey I like." I think it would be interesting to see how this works. I've been finding out that it doesnt really matter what you say, as long as it's not too extreme.
 
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