Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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MacAvoy

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Your right I'm not. But your looking at it totally wrong. Your looking at it with your "my heart just got tramped on" glasses. My point is this, he's 22 years old, how many relationships do you have before people get married these days? Many!

Realistically there too young to make a life long committment. That doesn't mean that they can't make medium term committments. If you read his post, he's willing to make a committment to her if he moves in.

Sure he may eventually get bored, in fact I'm willing to bet they will. However because its doomed for failure, does that mean, that they shouldn't enjoy each other in the meantime?

Everything in life doesn't have to be about finding that "one". Why can't people just enjoy each other's company, be there for each other, then move on with their lives.

edit: for the record, he never said he has NO feelings for her, he simply said he doesn't feel that spark.

edit2: IMO he's already made up his mind, he's just posting here to sound out his reasoning and to pick up on things to watch out for. We're not going to convince him either way. He's a very intelligent man when it comes to women.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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SunnyD

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That's fine, but that's assuming that she has the same mindset...and I can ASSURE, that she does not.
 

MacAvoy

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I assure you that she doesn't either. But his role in life is not to protect her, his role in life is to LIVE HIS LIFE. However what you have to keep in mind, is that she never asked for some big committment from him, she merely asked him to move in.

If at the end of the day, she ends up with a broken heart, he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't lead her on. He never said he would do something he wasn't willing to.

More importantly your talking like a broken heart is the end of the world and something to be avoided at all costs. I've had my heart broken many times and you know what, it was one helluva ride before it got broke so I'd do it all over again knowing that my heart was going to be broke, becuase thats LIVING LIFE.

I don't live in a glass house. I'm not afraid of getting my heart broke or breaking others. There was a time when I had a complex about breaking hearts but I've since learnt that its a worthwhile part of life and growing.
 

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MacAvoy said:
I assure you that she doesn't either. But his role in life is not to protect her, his role in life is to LIVE HIS LIFE. However what you have to keep in mind, is that she never asked for some big committment from him, she merely asked him to move in.

If at the end of the day, she ends up with a broken heart, he didn't do anything wrong, he didn't lead her on. He never said he would do something he wasn't willing to.

More importantly your talking like a broken heart is the end of the world and something to be avoided at all costs. I've had my heart broken many times and you know what, it was one helluva ride before it got broke so I'd do it all over again knowing that my heart was going to be broke, becuase thats LIVING LIFE.

I don't live in a glass house. I'm not afraid of getting my heart broke or breaking others. There was a time when I had a complex about breaking hearts but I've since learnt that its a worthwhile part of life and growing.
No but if he is getting into a relationship with her, his role in life IS to protect her and to respect her. Moving in together is the closest step to marriage. Not saying they're going to get married, obviously it's clear here they will not. But while she is not asking a relationship of him...she assumes that asking him to move in basically IS. If he agrees to it, and agrees to be exclusive...what's that telling her??? Yeah he's thinking "whatever, I can get out when I want...I'm just having fun for now..."

WOMEN don't think that way!!! She is not thinking that and he knows this. Yes he is doing something wrong, if he is moving in with her with different intentions.

And broken hearts may not be the end of the world...we live and learn. But it's pretty damn sh^tty and can take years to get over, and also shapes us for our next relationships, causes us to put up walls, think bad things of all people, and pretty much causes us never to trust again.

Yeah broken hearts blah blah blah...but if it can be avoided, and he has any ounce of respect for her...then AVOID IT.
 

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SunnyD said:
"Play house" for awhile? Get in a relationship just for sh*ts and giggles? Even though he has FLATLY said he has no feelings for her??? Wtf is the point? Why string her along like that and make her believe it's something serious, come on lets be real...moving in with someone is a big move...why allow her to fall in love, then inevitably get badly burned when the time comes he finds that special person and leaves her cold?? Or cheats on her..while she is led to believe that this is the real thing just so he can get steady a$$...

Come on MacAvoy...I know you're not THAT cold.
Women do that to AFC men all the time... So why should he not do it to her?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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thedeparted said:
I see a fvck-fiance in your future, with some little fvck-babies on their way...
and most likely fvcked up babies.
 
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