My autistic training centre is so bluepill

[tanchinos]

I was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome at 5 years old. My centre specialises in work training for some severe sufferers. Others are better off.

It portrays the world to autistics like the rest of our corporate capitalist society- slog your guts out for the man, with no guaranteed payoff.

I seem to know better that looks can get a person further in many arenas of life, but my 'boss' (a simulated boss, mind) doesn't acknowledge this and is bugging me constantly for work to be completed. She's a married woman, so must have found someone who loves her along the way. But I don't get this personal perception I have. I think deep down I am actually too advanced for this centre, but because the users have had their own troubles on the spectrum in the past, and are spoken to like pets, I get treated likewise from time to time and its wrecking my self-esteem.
It is causing me distress and despair that I never got to feel liberated with what I have got. When I was younger I was teased and insulted often, and ran in with crass girls in teens and 20s (at this age, probably young horny things unrealistically holding out for Chads). That combined with the pressure the centre is putting on me. I think I also left amateur theatre and my hobbies because I was terribly insecure (I didn't tell my family that). Do you think I should persist with this centre?

 

[sosousage]

autistic is my favorite internet word but no i couldnt read this

 

[marmel75]

Looks help you in every aspect in life even when they shouldn't. Dont think for a second that being a hot woman doesnt help them get a job especially when males are the ones making the hiring decision.

 

[tanchinos]

Looks help you in every aspect in life even when they shouldn't. Dont think for a second that being a hot woman doesnt help them get a job especially when males are the ones making the hiring decision.

The system's corrupt. Women elect in presidents and prime ministers because they're good-looking. Historically this has not always turned out well.

 

[marmel75]

The system's corrupt. Women elect in presidents and prime ministers because they're good-looking. Historically this has not always turned out well.

I wouldnt say its corrupt. I'd just say too many guys are thinking with the wrong head when making these decisions.

Corrupt would be like if someone got bribed and hired because of that. Plenty of that in the political world tho too.

 

[zekko]

[QUOTE="tanchinos, post: 2574609, member: 143264"I seem to know better that looks can get a person further in many arenas of life, but my 'boss' (a simulated boss, mind) doesn't acknowledge this and is bugging me constantly for work to be completed.[/QUOTE]
You can maximize your looks, but I don't believe you can really change them. Therefore, why would they teach that looks will get you further? Even if it is true, there's nothing you can do about it. That only makes it a self limiting belief, when many people could rise above it otherwise. Better to concentrate on things you can control, like your work output, for instance.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

[QUOTE="tanchinos, post: 2574609, member: 143264"I seem to know better that looks can get a person further in many arenas of life, but my 'boss' (a simulated boss, mind) doesn't acknowledge this and is bugging me constantly for work to be completed.

You can maximize your looks, but I don't believe you can really change them. Therefore, why would they teach that looks will get you further? Even if it is true, there's nothing you can do about it. That only makes it a self limiting belief, when many people could rise above it otherwise. Better to concentrate on things you can control, like your work output, for instance.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
If your body is shyt you can build a great body. Of your body is great your face will be reasonably lean. Dressed well youll look good.

So dont trip over your looks like a girl. But get in shape.

 

[tanchinos]

I think that all these theories and movements like redpill, MGTOW and incels, for all the criticism they get, have at least one of two legitimate points about the disadvantages of being a male in a **bluepill** society, especially these days. I am not totally convinced yet that incel attitudes could be just defeatist and negative, that they could be 'entitled' to hot women yet do not try to better themselves. Incels for instance should work on hobbies and finding what makes them happy, with or without a woman. If I had been aware of these things back in the late 2000s I would not be this venomous and angry now.

My problem with the whole male/female dating politics is when women advertise they are looking for dates with men, yet ultimately only are interested in the top 12% or whatever it is of men, who are physically attractive.

 

[tanchinos]

You can maximize your looks, but I don't believe you can really change them. Therefore, why would they teach that looks will get you further?

I should have mentioned this centre is run mainly by women, moreover the mothers of autistic children/adults. Women have certain advantages in the dating world compared to men. I get the feeling they don't experience what I experience, so subsequently don't provide the information.

 

[zekko]

Why would anyone want to train to be autistic?

Incels for instance should work on hobbies and finding what makes them happy, with or without a woman.

I've never understood what hobbies have to do with dating. If you're interested in something, you're interested in something, what do women have to do with it? I have more hobbies than I know what to do with, in fact I've had to cut different hobbies, sports, and interests out of my life because I simply have more than I have time for. If you're not interested in something, I wonder what is wrong with you? How can you not have any interests? If you don't, you're not taking advantage of the vast variety of experiences that are offered to you. If nothing interests you, I would say you have a lot bigger problems than women, I'd say your brain is dull and unimaginative.

If your body is shyt you can build a great body. Of your body is great your face will be reasonably lean. Dressed well youll look good..

Yeah, that's what I meant by maximizing your looks. But I don't agree with some posters like guru who says anybody can be an 8 or 9, just work out and get plastic surgery.

 

[touma.akagi]

It sounds like your family and circumstances conditioned you into a rut and convinced you that you're mentally inferior/handicapped.

Let me share with you a little secret: my mother also told me that I had Asperger's. My dad's father was believed to have it before it was a known condition. But now, I don't believe it. And I'll explain to you why.
The thing is, that my brain-scan looked different from that of my father and my two brothers, older and younger. And judging from that, my mother was convinced that I was the only one that wasn't neurotypical. But that's a load of bull****. Growing up, my father was a p ussy, my mother was a control freak, and my little brother matured at a slower rate than I did. I ended up getting a lot of crap from my family based on my appearance/weight, blame for things my brother did, was lied to by members of my father's family on a regular basis, and was helicopter parented by my mom.

And I'm the one with a disability? Sorry, I don't buy it. By the time I turned 19 I realized that I didn't have a disability - I was told I had a disability and was put through a hellish melodrama because of it.

 

[zekko]

I was having a discussion with someone of a similar age as I am a few weeks ago.
We were talking about how there was no one "on the spectrum" when we were growing up (in the 60s). Obviously part of this was because autism was not listed in the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) until the 80s. But we noted that we couldn't even think of anyone who exhibited those symptoms. I mean I was probably as quiet and isolative a student as anyone, but I don't think I was autistic.

Why is it so much more common now? Is it strictly a matter of diagnosis, or is there something in the environment that has changed and is causing it?

 

[touma.akagi]

But we noted that we couldn't even think of anyone who exhibited those symptoms. I mean I was probably as quiet and isolative a student as anyone, but I don't think I was autistic.

Why is it so much more common now? Is it strictly a matter of diagnosis, or is there something in the environment that has changed and is causing it?

Maybe it was a matter of diagnosis. People try to blame vaccinations, but I think that whole charade is bull****. I feel like today sometimes people may diagnose themselves onto the spectrum, or that some parents may diagnose their child onto it through observations that might not be that fair. I guess it can be socially acceptable in this age when feigning disability could get you out of trouble and being trans makes you a hero.

 

[zekko]

Maybe it was a matter of diagnosis. People try to blame vaccinations, but I think that whole charade is bull****.

Yeah, I've head the vaccination theory, not sure I buy it either. I'm not sure it's simply diagnosis either though. I know several people who are autistic today. I don't recall meeting people with similar symptoms when I was younger. Maybe they were there but I just didn't encounter them.

 

[tanchinos]

I've never understood what hobbies have to do with dating. If you're interested in something, you're interested in something, what do women have to do with it?

It isn't. The theory is about enabling men to focus off of women, perhaps specifically men who are young and horny, but have had troubles socially and/or dating i.e. by not being attractive.

 

[tanchinos]

It sounds like your family and circumstances conditioned you into a rut and convinced you that you're mentally inferior/handicapped.

Nah not the family. I was diagnosed officially by a doctor. My family know me best. My problem is the centre, really, not the family. As I've put already, all the service users have seemingly been sent there by parents/carers and have had it tough and the people running it treat me the same as they do the others, 'talking down to them' so to speak, but I am 31 and I think I'm better than that. It can be irritating to be spoken down to.

My problem is being forced to converge with a society that in the same breath is rejecting me. I got bullied, put-down and have had my spirit smashed, and it turned into bitterness and self-abuse. It sucked growing up in the 2000s, and I don't think it may ever stop soon. I never had any temerity to think I can be attractive to women. Even recently people have had the audacity to run studies and 'awareness weeks' for loneliness, at the same time that the culture of incels/redpill/MGTOW has started appearing. Red pill suggests loneliness/lack of popularity is at least part to not being goodlooking, a theory that can apply to males and females. I think there is some truth in that.

 

[touma.akagi]

Nah not the family. I was diagnosed officially by a doctor. My family know me best. My problem is the centre, really, not the family....I am 31 and I think I'm better than that. It can be irritating to be spoken down to.

You're 31 and still dealing with all this crap? I'm sorry, dude. Are you still living with your parents? Or are you on your own?

My problem is being forced to converge with a society that in the same breath is rejecting me. I got bullied, put-down and have had my spirit smashed, and it turned into bitterness and self-abuse. It sucked growing up in the 2000s, and I don't think it may ever stop soon. I never had any temerity to think I can be attractive to women. Even recently people have had the audacity to run studies and 'awareness weeks' for loneliness, at the same time that the culture of incels/redpill/MGTOW has started appearing. Red pill suggests loneliness/lack of popularity is at least part to not being goodlooking, a theory that can apply to males and females. I think there is some truth in that.

I suggest that you take a look at the book "Friends into Lovers" by Eric Edgemont. You can find a copy online somewhere (I did over two years ago, but posting it probably infringes on the forum rules) and it could help a lot. You really need to work on your self-image and self-worth first and foremost before you concern yourself with "being attractive." And if you don't like being talked down to, then tell whoever's talking down to you.