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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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my approach dialogue

baurman

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so i saw this very hot looking lady at starbucks by herself so I decided to approach her

me: hello. how you doing today?
her: ..ok
me: whats a good thing to get from here? I dont really come here often
her: im drinking the frapichino (or whatever it was..)
me: my names jon..
her: crystal.. ::shake hand::
me: so wheres your man at, whats a beautiful girl like you doing here by yourself?
her: i dont have a man and im a starbucks fiend...i like it here.

then i just started to talk about random crap, did a little C+F, conversation was going for about 5 minutes and i was running out of crap to say and she wasn't talking much....... so I wanted to get her number and get the hell out of there so i just said

me: well i gotta get going now, let me get your number and we'll talk more

she gave me a number...
2 days later i called it...

"Sorry but there is no crystal at this number..."

:box:

anything i did wrong?
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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me: so wheres your man at, whats a beautiful girl like you doing here by yourself?

I think that sounded quite needy, you should never ask indirect if she has a boyfrind, this way you show her exactly that you are intrested in her.

remember: if she has a boyfriend,she would tell you,so you do not need to ask
 

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baurman said:
me: well i gotta get going now, let me get your number and we'll talk more

she gave me a number...
2 days later i called it...

"Sorry but there is no crystal at this number..."

:box:

anything i did wrong?

Congradulations!! You have balls to ask for a number, but lack brains to ask if it's a real number. :yes:


Women get approached by men all the damn time, they've developed defence mechanisms, such as giving wrong phone numbers. They'd give you a number, just because it makes them feel good when you ask them for one.

You should have done this:

YOU: Well I gotta get going, my friends are waiting on me....

....tiny pause.....start walking away.... then turn around

YOU: Do you have an email?
HER: Yes I do
YOU: (take out a piece of paper from your wallet and a small space pen) Ok, write it down for me.

while she's at it

YOU: Write down your phone number too. (kino)
HER: Ok
YOU: Is this your real number? (while you get closer to her, in very serious and demanding tone - like a cop)

If she laughs, say "Look, give me your real number, I only call 9 times a day"


If she says she doesn't have e-mail ask her if she has electricity.
If she says it is her real number, ask her if she's serious. Don't laught while you say any of these.



For better advice read double your dating by DeAngelo.
 

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The trouble with your advice is that even though you caught her out about the fake number the fact that she was trying to give a fake number shows you that she ain't interested. As far as pointing out what you did wrong you havent really given enough detail to comment on.
 

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Zebedee said:
The trouble with your advice is that even though you caught her out about the fake number the fact that she was trying to give a fake number shows you that she ain't interested. As far as pointing out what you did wrong you havent really given enough detail to comment on.

Women would give out fake numbers. Unless you Brad Pitt there is no way around it. It doesn't mean she's not interested in you. Watch DeAngelo's seminars. As far as hot chick is concerned you're just another a55hole asking her phone number this week. If you can be different, then you stand out of the crowd of a55holes. Your mind set and tone when you ask if the number is real should be "my time is valuable and I don't waste it just on anybody, I am very selective."
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I agree with Zebedee. Here in the states, getting a phone number is not a huge deal. I've gotten phone numbers off girls I've only chatted too for a few minutes on the subway. They've been legit but no good (flakes) Point is, chicks tend to give out their number quite easily but its another ballgame entirely in terms of getting a date from that. A fake number straight off the bat would be low interest in my books.
 
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