"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My AFC Friend's Life...Funny & Weird & Sad

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He is 18 years old. He has never gotten a BJ or had sex. I think he may have gotten a kiss. But definately NO MAKEOUT sessions.

He is somewhat overweight. He works out doing the SAME ROUTINE EVERYTIME! Never increasing in weight. How does he expect to change if he keeps doing the same thing over and over and over again?

His hobby is soccer. He dedicates his LIFE to play soccer. However, he plays soccer BY HIMSELF! Practicing the SAME THING everyday! He doesn't start or play on his HS varsity. He is going to be a senior next year and may not even make the team. He is reconsidering even joining the team.

He wants to be a professional soccer player but doesn't believe in himself, nor his skills. He practices WAY TOO much doing the same things. When he messes up (which happens quite often) he puts himself down.

He makes the most bizzare excuses, for why he doesn't play well. The most recent one was that he said the name of a car, and then he didn't play so hot. Now, he never wants to say that word again! Others weird things are that if he steps on one area of the driveway he won't play well (because one day when he stepped on it, he didn't play well). On and on with weird and bizzare excuses.

All he does is STAYS HOME! With the exception of going to school and work, he NEVER, and I truly mean NEVER wants to leave his house! Guess what he wants to do! Practice soccer BY HIMSELF doing the SAME THING EVERYTIME!

I think everyone is fed up with him. Even his parents, who are starting to put him down. They are telling him that he won't be proffesional. They are creating a negative environment for him. The same environment which he calls home and never wants to leave.

He does not have any friends, with the exception of me. Well, he is not really a friend. He very disrespectful towards EVERYONE and pushes people away, even his only friend. He wants to live life by himself and NEVER EXPERIENCE LIFE!

Sometimes he says that he wants to go out. When time comes, he chickens out! Chickens out of LEAVING HIS HOUSE! Leaving him in this endless cycle.

Why would he do this?

Well, it is due to his isolationism.

Avoid staying home like the PLAGUE! This guy truly does not get out, nor does he want to sarge! Well he wants to but DOESN'T!

For those of you that are waiting to sarge after you are done reading EVERYTHING there is to know about seduction, think about this guy. There is way too much information on seduction for you to read everything. By the time you are done, your life will pass away!

Now, lets pretend that this guy actually does improve his skills and becomes the best soccer player in the world! What is he going to do? Stay at HOME! He may be the best but no-one will know! He is sheltered in his life. He wants to live there for the REST OF HIS LIFE! Meaning, he will live with his parents until they perish away.

He may get a FEW chances with women, but he will CHICKEN OUT! Just like he CHICKENED OUT on LIFE! When he is too old to do anything, he will look back on his life, in the SAME HOUSE, filled with REGRET!

And before I wrap this up, I want to finish with one question:

Do you want this to happen to you?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Harp said:
He is 18 years old. He has never gotten a BJ or had sex. I think he may have gotten a kiss. But definately NO MAKEOUT sessions.

He is somewhat overweight. He works out doing the SAME ROUTINE EVERYTIME! Never increasing in weight. How does he expect to change if he keeps doing the same thing over and over and over again?

His hobby is soccer. He dedicates his LIFE to play soccer. However, he plays soccer BY HIMSELF! Practicing the SAME THING everyday! He doesn't start or play on his HS varsity. He is going to be a senior next year and may not even make the team. He is reconsidering even joining the team.

He wants to be a professional soccer player but doesn't believe in himself, nor his skills. He practices WAY TOO much doing the same things. When he messes up (which happens quite often) he puts himself down.

He makes the most bizzare excuses, for why he doesn't play well. The most recent one was that he said the name of a car, and then he didn't play so hot. Now, he never wants to say that word again! Others weird things are that if he steps on one area of the driveway he won't play well (because one day when he stepped on it, he didn't play well). On and on with weird and bizzare excuses.

All he does is STAYS HOME! With the exception of going to school and work, he NEVER, and I truly mean NEVER wants to leave his house! Guess what he wants to do! Practice soccer BY HIMSELF doing the SAME THING EVERYTIME!

I think everyone is fed up with him. Even his parents, who are starting to put him down. They are telling him that he won't be proffesional. They are creating a negative environment for him. The same environment which he calls home and never wants to leave.

He does not have any friends, with the exception of me. Well, he is not really a friend. He very disrespectful towards EVERYONE and pushes people away, even his only friend. He wants to live life by himself and NEVER EXPERIENCE LIFE!

Sometimes he says that he wants to go out. When time comes, he chickens out! Chickens out of LEAVING HIS HOUSE! Leaving him in this endless cycle.

Why would he do this?

Well, it is due to his isolationism.

Avoid staying home like the PLAGUE! This guy truly does not get out, nor does he want to sarge! Well he wants to but DOESN'T!

For those of you that are waiting to sarge after you are done reading EVERYTHING there is to know about seduction, think about this guy. There is way too much information on seduction for you to read everything. By the time you are done, your life will pass away!

Now, lets pretend that this guy actually does improve his skills and becomes the best soccer player in the world! What is he going to do? Stay at HOME! He may be the best but no-one will know! He is sheltered in his life. He wants to live there for the REST OF HIS LIFE! Meaning, he will live with his parents until they perish away.

He may get a FEW chances with women, but he will CHICKEN OUT! Just like he CHICKENED OUT on LIFE! When he is too old to do anything, he will look back on his life, in the SAME HOUSE, filled with REGRET!

And before I wrap this up, I want to finish with one question:

Do you want this to happen to you?
are you sure this isnt your life?
 

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BuryYourDead said:
are you sure this isnt your life?
O, I see we have a comedian here. :up:

Just tell me when I'm supposed to laugh next time, alright there champ?
 

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From having taken several psychology classes in college, I tell you straight up- your friend has some bad psych disorsers. That thing about attributing "not playing well" to stepping on a place in the ground and such... if he doesnt change, that is eventually gonna develope into real serious mental disorders.
give em a wake up call or something, or hes fu**d.
 

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From having taken several psychology classes in college, I tell you straight up- your friend has some bad psych disorsers. That thing about attributing "not playing well" to stepping on a place in the ground and such... if he doesnt change, that is eventually gonna develope into real serious mental disorders.
give em a wake up call or something, or hes fu**d.
What do you suggest? I already beat the $hyt out of him once for being like that. I thought, that'd wake him up, but no luck.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Not AFC. OCD. That's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Look for other rituals he does all the time. It's up to his parents to drag him to a shrink. Not ur problem.
 

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The thing about people that AFC is that they wont change immediately. For them to even BEGIN to change, there have to be triggers set off in their lives, that will change their minds. Change comes from within, outside influences are nothing if deep inside himself he doesnt connect the dots.
He seems paranoid too, which at least subconciosly, will make him resist "helping hands" from other people who see him as inadequate. Beating him up may have made him even more adamant about sticking to his guns.
I really dont know how to snap him out of it. All I know is that the conditions in his life have to be appropriate to trigger his mind, and give him that spark that will motivate him to change. If those conditions are not there, then hes stuck in neutral.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Not AFC. OCD. That's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Look for other rituals he does all the time. It's up to his parents to drag him to a shrink. Not ur problem.
:up:
 

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Phyzzle said:
Not AFC. OCD. That's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Look for other rituals he does all the time. It's up to his parents to drag him to a shrink. Not ur problem.

I think you are right! I should get his parents to do that.
 

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you can't change a man in few days...few months or even decades

i guess you're either his good friend that wants to fix him or you despise this guy so much that you only see his negative side.
i say just let him be man, he is only 18, people can change and will change according their own will, not their parents or not even you.

i have a friend who was kinda geeky through high school and like many other people, never kissed or made out with anyone...he was really into sports (soccer, rugby n cricket etc) but hardly played them, just into his stats and stuff...

he got into law school and guess what? he changed...he still loves his sports but he started to dress differently, became very active (socially) etc...and last yr, a girl (i say HB8) that he used to have crush on since HS, kissed him at a party and now they're going out together!

so as for your friend...he will change, dramatically if HE WANTS TO...you can't tell him what to do:down:
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Stoic_Mo said:
The thing about people that AFC is that they wont change immediately. For them to even BEGIN to change, there have to be triggers set off in their lives, that will change their minds. Change comes from within, outside influences are nothing if deep inside himself he doesnt connect the dots.
He seems paranoid too, which at least subconciosly, will make him resist "helping hands" from other people who see him as inadequate. Beating him up may have made him even more adamant about sticking to his guns.
I really dont know how to snap him out of it. All I know is that the conditions in his life have to be appropriate to trigger his mind, and give him that spark that will motivate him to change. If those conditions are not there, then hes stuck in neutral.
exactly my point:up:
 

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Phyzzle said:
Not AFC. OCD. That's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Look for other rituals he does all the time. It's up to his parents to drag him to a shrink. Not ur problem.
thats not OCD...OCD happens to very delicate ppl, i say its Asperger's syndrome
 

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OCD happens to very delicate ppl, i say its Asperger's syndrome
Only delicate people?? Never heard that.

Oh well, asperger's syndrome (which I had) and OCD and autism are all shades of the same spectrum . . .

Whatever, enough armchair diagnosis. As Sigmund Freud would say, "That boy ain't right!" There's more than AFCdom going on here.
 

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Hey Harp, I think somebody programmed the Random Postmodern Essay Generator to post here pretending to be a person! That's kinda cool, actually.
 

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Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.

To Chandidas and Phyzzle and some other dude.
hey man, sorry if offended you...i was just telling the guy who started this thread, that his friend doesnt need anybody's help.

as for asperger syndrome, its not a disease! they are absolutely normal, you can say its case of extremely shy ppl.

im not making fun of anyone or making any stupid diagnosis as its against what i study for...:down:
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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