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My 2nd Cousin Is a Fvcking AFC Imbecile

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Do you know how frustrating it is when you see a family member make every fvcking mistake in the book when it comes to women? I thought I was the ultimate AFC back in my pre-Sosuave days, but my 2nd cousin (we'll call him Dip5hit Man (DM)) takes the cake.

He met this woman. Let's call her Flat Faced Humpty Dumpty (FFHD). I think he proposed to her after about a year. The proposal scene was something out of a 5hitty romance movie; On the beach with tiki torches, candles, and the words "marry me" spelled out with those cheap light-bulb letters you buy from the grocery store at Christmas. She said yes.

Okay, so no big deal. They start planning the wedding. Mind you, I haven't even met this chick yet. She's fvcking ugly in her Facebook pictures, but I figured as long as she's a good girl, then I could care less if my cousin wants to fvck a Humpty Dumpty for the rest of his existence. But then 5hit gets weird. I ended up chatting with him on the phone, but he had to cut the call short.

"Well, I have to go. I need to go help FFHD clean the other room."

"Why do you need to help her?"

"Because I can't just leave her to do all the housework. We're a team".

Yeah, that was the first red flag. The next one came when he got a dog; a Frenchie which he paid $2000 for. I told him, "You could have at least got yourself a useful dog that can chew a burglar's arm off, like a German Shepard or a Pit Bull. Why did you choose a small useless dog?"

"Because my fiancee wanted one and I wanted to show her that I love her."

"Well, you could have just got her a candy bar to stuff into her flat face."

Okay, I didn't say that, but I was truly shaking my head at how fvcking stupid he is. It's apparently his job to clean dog barf off the carpet when the dog gets sick. Anyway, the cringe doesn't end there...

I invited him to my kid's 18th birthday party which we held at Mongo's. He brought along FFHD so I was able to sort of meet her. She didn't say boo to me all evening. When she went into the lengthy line to get her dog bowl filled with kibble, DM kept on excusing himself from the table. "I'm gonna go check on FFHD" he said each time.

I turned the guest next to me and said, "Why does he need to keep checking on her? Is she prone to falling down or something?" I mean, she IS top-heavy and those fvcking twigs she calls legs might not be able to hold her up.

During their engagement, every fvcking week he would go on Facebook and post "xx days until "I Do". I bugged him about that. I said, "Why are you doing so much counting?"

He responded with "I'm just trying to be romantic".

I said, "You're doing a pretty 5hitty job if you think that's "romantic"."

Being a good cousin, I figured I'd give him a warning so I could have an "I-told-you-so" receipt when she ultimately drops his slave a55. It's very difficult to give an AFC advice without being incredibly harsh, but I think I pulled it off. I said "I'm going to give you one piece of advice if you want your marriage to succeed. You need to stop babying and spoiling your fiance. She is a grown woman and doesn't need you to continue proving your faithfulness and devotion to her every single day of her life. That's all I've seen you do with her. If she's a good woman, (and the impression I got from her at the party was that she IS a good woman), she will be a good wife to you. Why do I say this? Because I've stolen women away from guys who behave exactly like you do in a relationship. Women get tired of it and start to resent their partners who continue to behave that way. She's not your superior, she is your companion."

So the big "I do" day finally comes. His wife-to-be ended up deciding that DM's Dad shouldn't be bringing his newest GF. He met an Asian lady online. I insisted to his dad that he should pursue her, which he did. She's the nicest woman he's ever been with and treats him like gold. Anyway, FFHD decided that DM's Dad's Asian GF will be escorted out of the wedding if she shows up. Apparently, FFHD doesn't like "those kind of people". DM has decided to follow his wife's lead and align himself with that theology. His dad is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and he was a great father to DM. Not only that, FFHD decided that DM's sister shouldn't be bringing her BF either because he smokes too much weed. Well, DM's sister ended up telling DM and FFHD to go fvck themselves. She didn't come to the wedding.

The Honeymoon photos were certainly interesting. DM has a Hawaiian shirt with FFHD's face patterned all over it. I'd never seen anyone wear anything like that before. If I were a betting man, I'll bet he jacks off in it when she's not home.

So now we're all placing bets on how long the marriage will last. I have NEVER seen a dude go this fvcking spineless on a woman, and he ended up marrying her. He apparently says he needs to let her make all the decisions because she makes more money than him. Once she finds another dude who like to fvck girls who look like Humpty Dumpty, she'll most certainly make the decision to leave DM. She'll probably poop out a kid or two first so she can claim child support. I fvcking had to put up with him staying at my place last time a girl booted him out of his life. If he keeps burning all his family relationships, he's gonna be sleeping in a tent made from that fvcking shirt with FFHD's face all over it.
 

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How old are DM and FFHD?
That doesn't sound like the action of a good woman. :rolleyes:
the impression I got from her at the party was that she IS a good woman
Anyway, FFHD decided that DM's Dad's Asian GF will be escorted out of the wedding if she shows up. Apparently, FFHD doesn't like "those kind of people".
 

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She knows many guys opted with cute low maintenance Asian girls over her inflated ego drama, lol. Of course she does not want her competition (the better deal then she would be) to sow seeds in DM's mind. Its like your mother in law bringing chad, she just met online, to your wedding and your fiancee starts looking at him then you, lol
 

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D@mn, he keeps shooting himself in the foot so hard. Its like he actively wants to make her poozy dry and leave her no choice but to monkey-branch and/or cuck him.

I fvcking had to put up with him staying at my place last time a girl booted him out of his life.
I guess some people never learn from their mistakes.

Apparently, FFHD doesn't like "those kind of people".
Tf does that even mean? Asians? Nice women who know how to treat their man?
 

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now we're all placing bets on how long the marriage will last.
Less than 5 years. She will dump him.

I thought I was the ultimate AFC back in my pre-Sosuave days, but my 2nd cousin (we'll call him Dip5hit Man (DM)) takes the cake.
Beta male/AFC behavior is common. It's difficult to say who is the most AFC/beta.

I was a typical beta as I was first entering the mating market in junior and senior years of high school. Even in college, I was more beta than than I should have been. College when was I first started to read seduction content online, from old school guys like David DeAngelo, Doc Love, and others.

I wish I had been into Mystery when I was in college (2001-2005) but I had not heard of him. Strauss' "The Game" published in September 2005, a few months after I graduated college.

It took many years for me to de-program from being a blue pill ideology beta male. My mom, who primarily raised me, did a poor job preparing me for the mating environment of the late 1990s and beyond. She raised me as a "nice guy". My dad didn't spend enough time with me. My mom's brother (uncle) is a beta male. My uncle is not a terrible beta male and he's also an early Boomer. As an early Boomer (now in his 70s), he could get away with more of a blue pill ideology, beta male behavior in the late 1960s/early 1970s when he came of age. He has managed to have a marriage that has lasted. There are plenty of Boomer betas that got divorced during the Boomer divorce wave of the 1980s-early 2000s.

I gradually evolved from a beta male into a sigma male. I have the lone wolf avatar to represent my sigma male status. I am a bit introverted and do my own thing. That sounds like a sigma male.

Do you know how frustrating it is when you see a family member make every fvcking mistake in the book when it comes to women?
Yes, I know how frustrating that is.

Above, I mentioned my uncle. That uncle has 2 sons.

Despite the fact that my uncle and aunt have kept their marriage together, both of their sons (my cousins) have been divorced. At various times on this forum, I have mentioned these cousins and their divorces.

During the 2000s-2010s, I observed both these cousins doing beta things. I didn't like what I was observing, mainly hearing about stuff they did from my uncle, my aunt, or my mom. This was more upsetting to me in the 2010s when I further along in my transformation from beta to sigma and adopting a mostly red pill philosophy.

While I don't think either of my cousins made every fvcking mistake in the book, I think each of them made enough mistakes. Each of them had a blue pill ideology and their blue pill ideologies were contributing factors to their divorces. Their divorces have impacted their lives. The younger of the 2 cousins had kids in his marriage that ended up failing and has to co-parent. The older one had a childless divorce, then proceeded to get re-married and have children in his 2nd marriage. It's unknown whether his 2nd marriage will fail. There's a solid chance that it will fail. I will be more frustrated with that cousin if there's a 2nd marriage failure.
 

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Do you know how frustrating it is when you see a family member make every fvcking mistake in the book when it comes to women?
I used to agonize over witnessing those I love and even folks I'm simply mildly fond of make questionable decisions, not just in terms of who they bed and marry, but in ALL aspects of their existences. Then I realized:

It ain't my life, and spending more than a couple of minutes fretting over/hyper-analyzing this crap benefits no one, ESPECIALLY ME. Subsequently, I'm now a lot more joyful

I recommend giving it a whirl, OP
 

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D@mn, he keeps shooting himself in the foot so hard. Its like he actively wants to make her poozy dry and leave her no choice but to monkey-branch and/or cuck him.


I guess some people never learn from their mistakes.



Tf does that even mean? Asians? Nice women who know how to treat their man?
I don't think it's because she is Asian, but it sounds like that guy's father might have met a much younger woman, maybe from one of those mail order bride type dating websites lol.
 

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Less than 5 years. She’ll dump him.

You're being optimistic. She might actually stay with him and just cheat instead.


@SW15 — do you strongly believe in Red Pill ideologies?
Personally, I’ve gone through a shift. I’m somewhere between Blue Pill, Red Pill, and Black Pill — kind of in the middle between BP and RP most of the time. But there are certain truths that make me go fully Black Pill.


You really should check out FemaleDatingStrategy on Reddit. You might learn something useful.
I do believe that, in this huge sea of people, there are still some women who, like some men, are genuinely trying to grow and are looking for a respectful, healthy partner to share life with.


We should be sharpening our tools to find those people, instead of diving deeper into more Black Pill or Red Pill content. That’s my core belief now. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on this.


It’s not my life, and wasting more than a couple of minutes stressing or over-analyzing this stuff doesn’t help anyone — especially me. As a result, I feel a lot happier now.

At the same time, you wish people would act better, because deep down you have the capacity to love unconditionally and truly want to help others.
It’s painful to have to suppress that feeling — to the point where you rely on volunteering just to express that inner energy.


@Desdinova

Do you gossip to anyone in your life about these things?
Or do you just report it as logical reasoning here?
 
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You're being optimistic. She might actually stay with him and just cheat instead.
This is a less common behavior for Western women. Western women don't feel like staying with a man long term that they don't respect. In the short term, they could cheat but will leave. The infidelity will often make women realize that they don't want to stay long term.

@SW15 — do you strongly believe in Red Pill ideologies?
The red pill ideology is the closest ideology to my own ideology. I agree with some ideas I've heard from the black pill.

I made a post recently about how I transformed from a blue pill ideology, beta male nice guy to the sigma male that I am today. The lone wolf avatar that I have represents my sigma male presence.
 
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