"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Must one usually wait for opportunities to show up, or catalyze them

Kaim Argonar

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After having browsed for a while I've decided to step into the scene... I'm well aware of conventional Internet wisdom when it comes to dating, but anyway, there's nothing to lose with personal topics like these.

This is an area where there seem to be countless contradictions. You'll often read that it's when you don't seek that opportunities occur, that attraction isn't a choice, that women are always in the position of power to make decisions about the birth of new relationships, and so to avoid failure or disappointment, you must ultimately wait for a girl to give you pretty explicit hints before attempting to take things further. But then, there's the danger of throwing away precious time by waiting too long.

As to how it applies to me, I've just completed my first session at university. I've only entered it at a relatively late age (26) because the last few years have been trying, as I was dealing with chronic anemia and other hormonal woes, frequently forced to spend long periods of time at the hospital or suffering alone at home.

But after burying all this in the past, I was eager to pass onto more positives ventures. I changed towns, took my own apartment, and began college life. This first session was only to warm myself up. Even if I am a bit older than the average student, fortunately enough I look pretty young for my age and no one can tell the difference.

These have been satisfying times. I've joined a few clubs, made a few friends, talked to a lot of people, went to a few parties, talked to random girls... everyone was very nice and seemed to appreciate my presence, I haven't felt treated badly even once. I also liked my attitude, I was feeling confident and hard to impress even in front of pretty girls, but not to the point of looking obnoxious and pompous. I didn't feel ugly, at least reasonably good looking... a few times when feeling a bit more blue, I randomly stared at my visage in the mirror, and spontaneously thought that I didn't look bad at all and it was comforting.

I even asked out a girl I fancied. She said I was a very interesting person, but declined by saying that she was moving out soon, and she was at the end of her major, and thus too stressed with her exams to date. Of course you can't tell if this is sincere, or a deception to avoid hurting your feelings... but nevertheless I was proud to see how well I took it, and how I was able to be lighthearted and joke around as usual in stride when being near her in the few following weeks.

I feel well enough on my own to avoid needing a woman's validation in order to feel worthy, and have other interests like films and arts that take a lot of my time in order not to put these emotional struggles in the center stage.

Of course, it'd ultimately be a lie to deny that I didn't feel weepy and miserable at times, but fortunately I didn't let this take over my existence. I would've liked to have opportunities to grasp. Alas, even with all these contacts and efforts, it was impossible to ever go deeper with anyone. To remedy this in the next session I am going to take up tennis courses to put myself out there a bit more, and perhaps exercize a bit at the university's gym. I'm also going to lift weights at home to improve my posture and attempt to gain a bit of muscle.

But if it doesn't seem to be sufficient to generate more interest from females in the next session, does this mean that it would be a good idea to adopt a more proactive attitude, and slyly flirt with some girls in classes, clubs and stuff?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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For beginners, it is probably best to be as proactive as you can. This way, you will gain experience a lot quicker. Hopefully soon, you will develop a style that works for you. There are many techniques/approaches out there. what works for one guy will probably not work for another. And what works for one situation will probably not work for another. What you need to find out is what works for you and only you. Keep in mind that it takes a lot of work in the beginning. Don't let the multiple rejections in the beginning stop you from growing.
 

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redspicyflag said:
Grab your balls

and take what you want

cause you're a man!

Read some works of Pook
A priori, there are none of the hundreds of girls I saw that I specifically "wanted". I only developed a genuine desire for the girl I asked out. Of course I find most of the college girls cute and I want one, but just a girl in general, without having been able to pin the desire on a specific individual apart from that one case.

It doesn't seem problematic to do approaches when it's someone that you really like, in these cases being a little flirty and doing daring moves just feels right.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Kaim Argonar said:
A priori...
I think you mean prima facie, not a priori. A priori means (very roughlyl) "before experience", and this is logically contradictory to you saying that you did not want any of the girls you saw, as seeing is a form of experience. You are looking for prima facie, which means "at first sight".

Anyway, philosophy degree aside, force the issue a little. Talk to some of the girls you think are cute even if you do not think they are relationship material. The worst that will happen is that you will get better at interacting with them!
 

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trojanman88 said:
i realized that in college you gotta force the encounters.
At any rate it's a relatively cold environment where people are very nice, but seem to mainly worry about their own business and don't get attached a whole lot to others. The classes are very big and the population very high so it's impersonal. So in this kind of environment it's hard to go deeper than mundane small talk with people that you barely know.

I guess I should find ways to talk about tastes in films, music or whatever when such a thing is brought up in a conversation and go from there, or pick up on personal details or drama that the person brings up and then ask for an update in the following weeks.
 

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Now classes have started again and I've taken on more optional groups and activities. I've decided to join a beginner's tennis group at college and I went to the first lesson on last wednesday, and I also joined the gym.

The tennis group is mostly female, and I think I really like one of the girls. I tried to initiate conversation, but it was a bit awkward to do since the people who follow the course don't talk to one another, they simply listen to what the coach says and execute the exercizes he wants us to do. So if I were to attempt to initiate longer conversations with her she'd notice that she's being singled out a bit too soon. I was merely able to say "bye see you next week" and smile when we met outside the gym where the tennis courses are located.

I aim to nevertheless try again in the following weeks and hope for good opportunities... nothing might happens, or I may be met with a bit of coldness, or find no hints or her fancying me, but if it indeed happens it musn't be taken to heart, I know it's nothing personal, and dating is all about odds and randomness. It might even be an entertaining challenge.

At any rate, I try to be funny and tell zingers in class and in groups (such as the tennis one) at every opportunity, and it seems to make people acquire a slightly better perception of me, I've had people talk me back about it in a positive manner and it's somewhat encouraging.
 

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Both. Be able to create opportunities where none previously existed (by opening), and be ready to latch on to opportunities that appear in the daily routine.
 
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