You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Sh1t , getting girls is so out of your reality. You'll have some bad problems in the future if you don't start acting NOW. You'll never have abundance.trv26 said:Also, if not trying to get with other girls, what other practical suggestions do you have to get over a breakup?
Huh? What are you on about? Ok I know I'm not rolling in girls, but atleast i'm trying.Daddy The Pimp said:Sh1t , getting girls is so out of your reality. You'll have some bad problems in the future if you don't start acting NOW. You'll never have abundance.
Well you're doing the right thing by discussing it. There are a few (only a few) people I've seen on this board give good advice. Try other mediums as well. I, for one, used to be a LAME in high school. Since then I've dated hundreds of females, thanks to the stuff I learned from other guys (and a few females) who were "THOROUGH" with game.trv26 said:Fair enough. I don't think she minds chatting however, because often its her starting the conversation. But I do get the point about persistence not changing anything w.r.t. attraction.
Also, if not trying to get with other girls, what other practical suggestions do you have to get over a breakup?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Do you think she wants a relationship with you? If no, and you still want one with her, you will end up chasing her and it will not end well. Give up before you dig into this problem too deeply.trv26 said:I asked her for phone, said no. Asked her out, she said no.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Dude, listen. If she gave you a direct no, that means NO!trv26 said:Lol, how will I get hurt? And even if I did get hurt, isn't this site all for doing something even if its the wrong thing, but learning something through the experience?
Also I think I'm at the friend-bf juncture, and if I play things right I'll be in.
Is she worth pursuing? If you're just desperate for a girl shes not worth it, become her friend and use the opportunity for practice dealing with women, connections, etc.trv26 said:Also I think I'm at the friend-bf juncture, and if I play things right I'll be in.