"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Fair enough. I don't think she minds chatting however, because often its her starting the conversation. But I do get the point about persistence not changing anything w.r.t. attraction.

Also, if not trying to get with other girls, what other practical suggestions do you have to get over a breakup?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Daddy The Pimp said:
Sh1t , getting girls is so out of your reality. You'll have some bad problems in the future if you don't start acting NOW. You'll never have abundance.
Huh? What are you on about? Ok I know I'm not rolling in girls, but atleast i'm trying.
 
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trv26 said:
Fair enough. I don't think she minds chatting however, because often its her starting the conversation. But I do get the point about persistence not changing anything w.r.t. attraction.

Also, if not trying to get with other girls, what other practical suggestions do you have to get over a breakup?
Well you're doing the right thing by discussing it. There are a few (only a few) people I've seen on this board give good advice. Try other mediums as well. I, for one, used to be a LAME in high school. Since then I've dated hundreds of females, thanks to the stuff I learned from other guys (and a few females) who were "THOROUGH" with game.

One thing I used to do all the time (and still do) is really observe people. When I used to take the bus or hang out at the mall, I would watch the way couples interacted with each other. The way a woman gazes at a guy that she likes or the way a woman acts uninterested in a guy on the first date. Occupy your mind with learning body language and other nonverbal signals females give. I posted a very deep post about ways to tell if a female is interested...if you can search for it, find it and look for those signals when you go out.

Getting over a breakup is all about TIME and OCCUPYING your mind and body. Getting women on the side helps too, but the main thing is realizing that your next woman is ALWAYS BETTER than your last. Realize that YOU are the prize. TIME takes care of its self. To occupy your mind, learn from others, read, and give yourself positive affirmations. Also take up a new hobby or improve upon your talents--this will also increase your self-confidence.
To occupy your body, work out, eat healthy, concentrate on your grooming habits, and consider revising your wardrobe.

Repeat as necessary and know that as you get older, your options WILL increase.

In the meantime, whenever you talk to a girl (in person or online), if she says "no" or "I'm not interested", either laugh at her or look at her like SHE'S crazy and walk away/close the chat window. Again, persistence will kill your confidence and in this instance NEVER pays off.
 

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Persistence sometimes pays. Girl wants to meet up. Hopefully if i play it right on the day, mayb i can mayb something of it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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trv26 said:
I asked her for phone, said no. Asked her out, she said no.
Do you think she wants a relationship with you? If no, and you still want one with her, you will end up chasing her and it will not end well. Give up before you dig into this problem too deeply.
 

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but i knew her only for 2-3 days then. Either way there's nothing to lose by meeting up right?
 

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Ok don't get hurt. I'd reccommend not persuing her if she's letting you hang out as friends cause you'll be breaking her trust there if u still like her and she may dislike you more in the end, u never know.

Man online dating is just plain risky and unballsy.
 

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Lol, how will I get hurt? And even if I did get hurt, isn't this site all for doing something even if its the wrong thing, but learning something through the experience?

Also I think I'm at the friend-bf juncture, and if I play things right I'll be in.
 

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read the POWER PERSUATION ARTICLE I WROTE FOR GETTING WHAT U WANT
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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trv26 said:
Lol, how will I get hurt? And even if I did get hurt, isn't this site all for doing something even if its the wrong thing, but learning something through the experience?

Also I think I'm at the friend-bf juncture, and if I play things right I'll be in.
Dude, listen. If she gave you a direct no, that means NO!

If you really wanna learn though, try it and see what it's like to do the wrong thing. Why would you want do the wrong thing on purpose?
Just don't expect to go from a no to a yes instantly.

You mentioned earlier that you've never had a female friend before. If you want one you can actually get it this time and LJBF her instead of her LJBFing you.

Just think about it, I'm only tryin to help guide ya not order u around.
 

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Also I think I'm at the friend-bf juncture, and if I play things right I'll be in.
Is she worth pursuing? If you're just desperate for a girl shes not worth it, become her friend and use the opportunity for practice dealing with women, connections, etc.
 

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Move on.

She is not sexually attracted to you therefore she is worthless to you.

And no playing friends is not going to get her with you eventually.

It is a waste of fvcking time.

Again I say...

Move on.
 
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