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Mr. Tate's "Truth about Ego"

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All success can be traced back to a positive and strong ego.
I like his reference to an upward spiral and I don't know the answer to his question on how to define or what alternative word to use to describe the deserved ego and the undeserved ego.
less than 5 minutes long video. Sweet and succinct.
 

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The truth is that the ego doesn't exist and it's merely socially fabricated for convenience. You cannot control something that doesn't exist.
 
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All success can be traced back to a positive and strong ego.
I like his reference to an upward spiral and I don't know the answer to his question on how to define or what alternative word to use to describe the deserved ego and the undeserved ego.
I would say the ego changes depending on the context. In general I would work with maslov's pyramide of needs. The ego becomes more nuanced multi perspective transparent fluctuationg. So it's basically almost an illusion.

In general the ego is the operating system of our meat machine. It depends on it's programming and the externel imput.
 

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I would say the ego changes depending on the context. In general I would work with maslov's pyramide of needs. The ego becomes more nuanced multi perspective transparent fluctuationg. So it's basically almost an illusion.

In general the ego is the operating system of our meat machine. It depends on it's programming and the externel imput.
multi perspective transparent fluctuating....
Going to google that phrase-what branch is that? psychology term?

I agree it depends on its programming and external inputs.

I'm on the email list for this guy, watched a couple of his videos. He's alright. Be interesting to talk to.
 
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multi perspective transparent fluctuating....
Going to google that phrase-what branch is that? psychology term?

I agree it depends on its programming and external inputs.

I'm on the email list for this guy, watched a couple of his videos. He's alright. Be interesting to talk to.
I would say "self actualization"

It's the top level in maslov's pyramid. Your guy is quite on the lower level. That's ok one has to work himself up.

On the higher level ego becomes more and more an illusion just a story.
 

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The truth is that the ego doesn't exist and it's merely socially fabricated for convenience. You cannot control something that doesn't exist.
Im not sure about ant's but I do know trees has no ego.

Every living human has one.

Ego is ur life narrative, a story that you see urself in.

Without ego, a man will be brain dead.
 

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Im not sure about ant's but I do know trees has no ego.

Every living human has one.

Ego is ur life narrative, a story that you see urself in.

Without ego, a man will be brain dead.
People can function perfectly fine with retrograde amnesia.
 

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Interesting. Do you have links to it?
Unless I'm mistaken, the majority of people with it can live unassisted, the only thing that tends to suffer is their relationships. Of course cases where they had severe brain trauma is a different story. I don't know any studies that examine the quality of life in people with retrograde amnesia.
 

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Unless I'm mistaken, the majority of people with it can live unassisted, the only thing that tends to suffer is their relationships. Of course cases where they had severe brain trauma is a different story. I don't know any studies that examine the quality of life in people with retrograde amnesia.
Ok. Thanks
 

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Interesting topic!

So as we are imaginative beings, we can imagine and create any kind of idea... also our ego or how we see each others.

But, in some cases, isn't that a way to hide our fear from death? When we create such ideas like "I'm the best" or chase some ideals... what those it matters in the end?

Death will come, and it will be all lost.

What I think that may be the challenge is, we can create a ego that contribute to our species survival... Like leaving some legacy. But we can also create a fake reality to avoid pain and avoid our fear of death.

It's just an idea, not saying this is right. But, something interesting to think and discuss.
 

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Interesting topic!

So as we are imaginative beings, we can imagine and create any kind of idea... also our ego or how we see each others.

But, in some cases, isn't that a way to hide our fear from death? When we create such ideas like "I'm the best" or chase some ideals... what those it matters in the end?

Death will come, and it will be all lost.

What I think that may be the challenge is, we can create a ego that contribute to our species survival... Like leaving some legacy. But we can also create a fake reality to avoid pain and avoid our fear of death.

It's just an idea, not saying this is right. But, something interesting to think and discuss.
Yes this is the biggest project of mankind. That is why Socialism will never lose it's appeal.

I think there are and will be methods to connect to each other more in order to get bigger things done apart from the personal ego.

Ego is I guess just the biological OS. On top of it you can come up with EGO 2.0 etc. It's funny how easily your brain get's fooled and you think a fake hand is your hand.

 

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Yes this is the biggest project of mankind. That is why Socialism will never lose it's appeal.

I think there are and will be methods to connect to each other more in order to get bigger things done apart from the personal ego.

Ego is I guess just the biological OS. On top of it you can come up with EGO 2.0 etc. It's funny how easily your brain get's fooled and you think a fake hand is your hand.

That video is quite interesting!

But in some ways, human kind are on a stage that chasing papers is more important than other stuffs.

Maybe this will be necessary for us to understand what really matters in the future.

Not telling that money or capitalism is the problem... but how we behave on it.
 

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People can function perfectly fine with retrograde amnesia.
Loss of memory doesn't equate to not being able to create new memories.

New memories or experiences = new life narrative = ego is present.

No ego = brain dead.
 

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Loss of memory doesn't equate to not being able to create new memories.

New memories or experiences = new life narrative = ego is present.

No ego = brain dead.
People with anterograde amnesia can live perfectly fine as well, but that has nothing to do with ego, which is merely a social constuct. You don't need an ego to have a "biographical self".
 

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People with anterograde amnesia can live perfectly fine as well, but that has nothing to do with ego, which is merely a social constuct. You don't need an ego to have a "biographical self".
The moment you think of self, is the moment you have an ego.

A human cannot function without an ego.
 

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Btw. Lex Fridman may become the Joe Rogan of science podcasts. he has to take a couple of acting classes and he is ready.

 
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