"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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"moving too fast" - anti slut defense or low interest?

paulwis

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Ok so I've been on two dates with this one girl. We get along extremely well and everything just clicks. All we've done is kiss... the first date was a couple of deep pecks and the second date were longer kisses, in which SHE initiated the usage of A LOT of tongue. She texted me saying she really wanted to talk to me on IM. I had never talked to her on IM before but she made it sound really important so I went on for a little bit to talk about whatever it was. Once we got to what she actually wanted to talk about, she said that we hardly know each other, and would much rather be friends first before we get into anything serious and not get our hopes up. She also mentioned out of the blue that she had recently broken up with her boyfriend. I don't know how long ago, but I will ask tonight I guess. I told her we shouldn't be talking about this over IM, that we should save it for when we hang out tonight. I agree that we hardly know each other at this point, but isn't that what the dating process is for in the first place... I want to make it perfectly clear to her that I am not looking for another friend, especially with the hopes of having it become more. Bad idea :down: . I don't know if she is simply low interest or if she is uncomfortable being intimate with me at this point since we don't really know each other well. How should I go about the date tonight? My goal is to keep it going the way it was. It's not like I'm pushing sex or anything.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Poonani Maker

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She's trying to get you to chase. Fvck her. There are other fish in the sea.
 

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I agree tell her that your dates are a way of you guy's getting to know each other better I mean spending time togethor helps you find stuff out about each other doesnt it? It seems to me she is trying to push you away because her ex is trying to get back with her and maybe you were just the rebound who knows all I know is you shouldnt let this affect you that much but stay in control of the relationship ok and good luck update.
 

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How should I go about the date tonight? My goal is to keep it going the way it was. It's not like I'm pushing sex or anything.

I agree, except you actually can push sex. Don't rape the girl, but there's nothing wrong with being aggressive. Use actions not words. With your words, agree emphatically when she says the ljbf bs. Salesman call it 'acknowledge and ignore.' You just keep on going like she never said anything. She wants sex as much as you do, all you have to do is overcome her psychological and social ASD conditioning.

If you get shot down in flames, don't show anger or frustration. Just stop taking her calls for a few days. After you pull back, you can try her again. If you are spinning other plates as you should be, there is nothing wrong with going beck to a woman who has rejected you, as long as she has been properly punished for that rejection by withholding you attention and making her come crawling back.
 

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UPDATE:
We went to eat, talked about it - the conversation went exactly my way the whole time, she agreed with everything. Things went super and we made out at the end. Isn't that a happy ending :D

oh, and she said I was the best kisser she's had. double :D
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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paulwis

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haha, why do you two come to this exact same conclusion?
 

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(One) she wanted to talk to you on IM, then talks about just wanting to be friends. She's "dated" you twice and already she wants to be just friends?

(Two) She says she recently broke up with her "ex"-boyfriend, and yet has been "seeing" you. She also claims she doesnt know you well enough to be in a relationship.

(Three) I can go on-and on explaining how she's just making excuses because she either found something, or someone better, or she's back to her ex.

Conclusion, she lost interest in you.

LJBF (Lets just be friends), checkmate.

Do yourself a favor and find someone else, if she tries to crawl back into a relationship with you (make sure its more than friends this time), then you can decide, if she doesn't, then atleast you've moved on. All in all it seems like you've been used for a rebound.
 
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Typical of today's hors! What the hell is wrong with these chicks!!! She goes down your throat and then through IM, tells you to chill!! No bytch, you chill - I'm being a man!!!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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