Moving to Another Country....Where Should I Go?

[STR8UP]

Not just yet, maybe in 5-7 years. Gotta put the finishing touches on my empire first

I definitely, definitely, DEFINITELY want to live in another country. Maybe not permanently. Maybe forever. Maybe live in one country for awhile, then move to another. It's not set in stone. I'm open to playing it by ear.

So......if you were a single man who could either live off of his passive income or earn enough passive income in his part time to live like a king in another country, which would country would it be?

Assume that women ARE a factor, but not the only factor. I definitely want to experience the refreshingly feminine nature of women who live in other parts of the world, but other factors play into the decision such as;

- quality of living
- cultural compatibility
- the food
- climate
- access to interesting places to explore
- proximity to home base (US)

The places that interest me the most just happen to have some of the best food, the most interesting places to see, and the most feminine women. They also happen to be poorer countries where your dollar goes a long way :rockon:

My short list is as follows:

• Thailand/ Vietnam
• Phillippines
• Russia
• Eastern Europe
• Mexico
• Central America
• South America (probably Brazil)

Here are the pros and cons (IMO) of each:

Thailand/ Vietnam
- Pro-Awesome food. I absolutely love S.E. Asian cuisine. Women from this part of the world are some of the sexiest, most feminine creatures on the planet.
- Cons- HOT AS FUKK. Low standard of living. Cultural compatibility issues. Not at the top of my list of "places to see" (although definitely interesting). A LONG ASS WAY from the US.

Phillippines
- Pro- Many people seem to speak english from what I understand. Cute, petite women (had an ex that was born there). They seem to love Americans, and the culture seems to mesh a little better. Nice beaches
- Cons- HOT AS FUKK. Low standard of living. Food not so good. A LONG ASS WAY from the US.

Russia
- Pro- Hot women??
- Cons- The rest of it.

Eastern Europe

- Pro- Arguably the hottest women on the planet. Weather not too bad depending upon where. Cultural compatibility= moderate. Food= pretty good. Quality of living= improving. PLENTY of interesting places to explore. Only 12 or so hours travel time to get back to the US

Mexico
- Pro- A hop, skip and a jump to get back the states. Lots of cool sh!t to see. Mexican food is AWESOME. Been around a lot of Mexicans. The culture can't be too big of an issue.
- Cons- Not the best looking women in the world. HOT AS FUKK. Low standard of living.

Central America
- Pro- I hear Costa Rica is NICE. Hot women. Good food. Standard of living= ok. Beautiful landscape. Not too far from home
- Cons- HOT AS FUKK.

South America (specifically Brazil)
- Pro- Hot women with plump asses. Great food. Lots of cool stuff to see. Not TOO far from US.
- Cons- Different culture, maybe not too much so?? Not sure.

Conclusion-

I am intrigued by S.E. Asia and the Phillippines, but distance, culture, and other factors might make it impractical.

I LOVE Eastern Europe. If I don't ever get the opportunity to live there, I at least want to explore that part of the world. Easy access to the rest of Europe and all of its many cultural wonders makes it an attractive option.

Mexico is AWESOME. I spent one whole day there when I was on a cruise, and loved every minute. The food, the tequila, the beer, the shopping, the ocean....AMAZING. And it's close close close. Not so sure about the women there though....

Central America sounds great, particularly Costa Rica. A buddy of mine has a g/f from there and I totally dig her. Very feminine and cute.

Brazil seems to be at the top of my list at this point. Hot ass women, great food. The AMAZON rainforest. What more can I say?

Other possible contenders might include Cuba and Dominican Republic. Don't have much info on Cuba, but had a g/f who was second generation cuban and she was a great girl. The info I have received was positive across the board. I have heard nothing but great things about DR. The Dominicans I have known are all great people.

Did I miss any? Thoughts and opinions welcome.....

 

[MatureDJ]

I'd go to Ukraine (I actually go there periodically.) It's like Russia, but with a much less jackass government. The non European Union Eastern Europe is not quite as good (the women are not as hot, less interested in foreign men, and there are a lot of foreign men visiting), although I understand that some of the smaller cities in western Poland (i.e., that used to be German) like Wroclaw are nice.

Of course, something to think about is that these countries will not just allow you to stay there indefinitely without a good reason. In general, you can go for 3 months within a 6 month period, although you might be able to swing a business visa to stay for 6 months at a time (you would need to leave within the 6 months.) I did this once in Ukraine, but I think that the law has changed.

Something else to think about it is as hot as those other places are, Eastern Europe is cold, especially deep in Russia like Moscow. I would tend to think that most folks living in Florida would have a hard time with a super cold climate (I am also from the Gulf Coast, but since I ski 2 months a year, I don't really have as much a problem.) Of course, you could always come back to Florida in December, and the go back there in March.

Southeast Asia & the Philipenes could be a good deal. You'd be known by everyone as a "farang", but it could work out. Personally, it's not my cup of tea as I prefer European, with possibly some Siberian Asian admixture (like in the former USSR.)

I think being a man dating women in Latin American, you will have a problem with common thieves, as well as machismo men not liking the idea of a gringo taking their women (somehow this seems to be less a problem in the former USSR.)

Another thing to be concerned about is the language. If you know Spanish pretty well, then Latin American works (except for Brazil, to some degree.) You would need to learn some Russian for the former USSR, and the the individual languages for the others. Of course, most Eastern European languages are Slavic, and use at least a somewhat easy to comprehend alphabet. The Asian countries use a difficult language and alphabet, but then again, you could probably get by with English in the Phillippines, and to some extent, even Thailand.

The best thing to do is to make a trip to all the places. You'll figure out where you would want to settle. Of course, you could take the attitude that you are always on vacation when there, and have a permanent inexpensive condo in the USA for you to keep all your stuff, and have a place where you can go and feel like you are in a stable place. Or alternatively, you could keep your stuff in storage, and when you would get back, you just rent a place for the month or two that you be home (I'd get the cheap condo, even if the net cost would be a little more.)

 

[trent81]

I have been all over the world. If you are white and look American you will be murdered in most of the places you mentioned in less than three years. Russia is out of the question. South East Asia is infested with HIV and other STD's, if you go to Thailand you WILL get AIDS. Eastern Europe is piss poor and they will suck you dry. Mexico? Are you serious? Do you watch the news about the drug cartels? Central and South America, the biggest business there is kidnapping Westerners. I would recommend England, Scandinavia (if you don't mind the cold), and Australia. You are fuvking crazy if you think life is better in the places you mentioned. You may have this pretty little image in your head that everything is better there, it's not. It's horrible living conditions and you will die if you make a mistake. It's not rosy like USA. USA is the best place to live in the world, period. It's too bad the women here are the worst. Good luck.

 

[trent81]

If you are moving in hope of meeting a feminine woman, and woman is 80 percent of the reason you are leaving the greatest country on earth, you are dead.

 

[Jitterbug]

Did you just suggest him go to England or Australia to take a break from American women? Seriously?

 

[Zunder]

If you are moving in hope of meeting a feminine woman, and woman is 80 percent of the reason you are leaving the greatest country on earth, you are dead.

Your country is not the greatest on earth. Mine is. New Zealand. But - the chicks are fast becoming Americanised, so may be almost too late.

I'd go to Mexico. How many untapped Salma Hayeks are there lurking about, undiscovered.

 

[trent81]

USA is the greatest country on earth.....Period. ......You will not find the opportunities elsewhere....Culturally it sucks.......No, I didn't suggest English or Australian women, I suggested a place to live. Any guy who moves to another country for women is in trouble. Women are almost all the same everywhere now. The difference is that one is more feminine and wants your money, the other, less feminine and wants your money. Good Luck.

 

[trent81]

Quality of life in Eastern Europe is horrible. Over 17 percent unemployment rate in Eastern Europe, the countries are dying. Go to Budapest, walk the streets, or Sofia, etc. That part of Europe is almost dead.

 

[Mace]

I have been to Vietnam backpacking last year. If you want to have some more info pm me

 

[synergy1]

I have been exposed to Russian women lately and must say they might rank even worse than American women in terms of materialism and what not. Granted these women are likely localized to a wealthier part of Russia, but if you relocate to the wrong spot in Russia, expect more of the same.

Eastern European women are absolutely stunning. Their culture is great, but the country is still reeling from the past 10-20 years. When we went there, we met up with a local and got a good tour of the area we were at, and managed to get a good rundown of their culture. This chick who was 21 or so still remembers American bombs going off in the distance from when she was younger - unreal.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Not just yet, maybe in 5-7 years.

You should have upwards of 12,000 posts by then.:cheer:

Why don't you get mail order bride? All those places you mentioned are nice to visit, but I sure as sh!t wouldn't want to live there. For all the reasons previously mentioned, you'd be dead, or broke, or infested with aids within two years.

 

[Commandante]

All those places you mentioned are nice to visit, but I sure as sh!t wouldn't want to live there.

Exactly. I spent 4 weeks in cuba this spring and it was really awesome, the best time of my life. But I would never live there for more then 2-3 month in a row.

If a good faerie would put 2k€ on my account every month without doing anything for it I would take my backpack and go on holiday... for 10-20 years.

 

[Sinistar]

Can't speak to all of those places but can offer input on a few. I go to Mexico at least once a year. I no longer go to the pacific side but I still enjoy and recommend the carribean side (and maybe a few places up the Sea Of Cortez). You can't directly own property in Mexico but I think if you set up something with a bank there you can get as close as possible. I would recommend something like Playa Del Carmen our a bit south of there. But not for the whole year, just sometime during the winter. Also in the carribean I have always liked the dutch settled islands the best. Of the ABC's, my favorite is the 'B'. I could easily live there for 2-3 months every winter!!! Biggest problem there will be petty theft. You won't meet quantities of women but I think you'd enjoy the dutch/euro women that rotate through there to work the resorts, dive shops, etc plus the euro centric tourists. The pace there is slow and relaxed. If you hate wind, you won't like it. One benefit of going leeward is the lower occurrence rate of hurricanes.

I spent a lot of time in Singapore and some time in Malaysia. I know I wouldn't want to live in Singapore full time. It's expensive and just too crowded and industrialized (eg the only beach was covered with oil the last time I went). Malaysia was interesting. If I could find a small place (eg Tiomen) to go for a month it might be nice but any longer than that - probably not.

My wife's family lived in Norway prior to coming here. It is mega expensive there. I haven't been there yet but will soon. I know someone (who's young + wealthy), about your age and still "experiencing" life. He spends the majority of his time in the Scandinavian countries and always comes back with tales of women (and great pictures!). Of course your wealth / power topic plays a role here for him.

I wouldn't want to live in Turkey but some of the women ...

If I was looking for a place outside the US during summer / fall I think I'd look into the New Zealand suggestion.

 

[3countriesPlan]

I've been to many places and I think Italy is one of the best. Living in the EU would be a great change of pace plus it is a lot better to be able to not have to look over your back like if you to be in SA. South America is a seedy place for Americans unless you can speak Spanish like a local and look like one.

In Asia, you don't wanna be in Thailand, not a cool place to have to risk getting AIDS just to tap some azz. If you want to be in Asia why not go to a smaller city in Japan or bang white tourist girls in Bali?

 

[Duffdog]

I say, do whatever you want. The only thing is, I wouldn't expect any better treatment anywhere else. To do so is folly.

 

[DMSR76]

I have been all over the world. If you are white and look American you will be murdered in most of the places you mentioned in less than three years.

LMAO!!!

 

[RMM]

I've been here for a bit over a year now, and I can say that New Zealand _is_ a really great place to live. The caveat is, for what I've seen, apparently obesity is on the rise (as it is through the whole West), so that affects the female market, so to speak. Talking women, there is a good portion of decent Asian women and there's a constant influx of young foreign people due to the universities, so that helps too. I'd take Wellington over Auckland, but that's more of a personal taste.

Talking about Brazil though, if you decide for it I'd recommend you just move to Belo Horizonte (commonly called B.H. or "Beagá"). It's a great city, the chaps from Minas Gerais (the State) are pretty cool, and it's nowhere near as big as Sao Paulo or Rio, you're looking at about 3 million people. Sure, SP and Rio have so much stuff they're awesome (I lived in SP for a while too), but I'd definitely choose BH over them if I were thinking of moving permanently. I also lived in Porto Alegre, there's not much bad I can say about the place, but the weather's not so nice and it's overall much less exciting. Minas Gerais is a very prosperous region in Brazil, and it shows. Oh, and it's not too far from Rio and SP, so you can hop in a cheap flight and get there in no time if you feel like it.

Check the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belo_Horizonte

 

[KontrollerX]

Go to Brazil Str8up.

It seems one of the safest out of the choices but not just that I've heard the women are smoking hot there too.

 

[jeffthechef]

if you're rich, go to Hong Kong or China...if you can afford to live in the nicer areas, you'll love it....you won't have your ass taxed nearly as much as you do here..you'll find that there is less crime...the atmosphere is always lively and bustling...food is great and cheap..transportation is cheap and fast or VERY CHEAP but slow...

well most of that is about HK...China's richer areas are probably like that

the only negative woudl be the language barrier...i'm sure there are many english speaking areas there...but most people only know cantonese or mandarin

Good Luck finding a country

 

[Hooligan Harry]

I have been exposed to Russian women lately and must say they might rank even worse than American women in terms of materialism and what not. Granted these women are likely localized to a wealthier part of Russia, but if you relocate to the wrong spot in Russia, expect more of the same.

Mate, ALL women are materialistic. Russian women just dont lie about it. They are without a doubt the most feminine women I have ever come across and the most traditional. As a man, you either provide for her and her family or you are a loser. End of story. No debate. She is not going to bullsh1t you and tell you that she will stay faithful to you if you cant provide her with some kind of lifestyle. Its why I cant help but laugh when you come across people who say that Russian women are not the gold digging wh0res that American women are. They are, but they are honest about it. They like their men to be men and they make no apologies for it.

Blunt to the point of rudeness is the best way to describe them. Its a good quality as much as it is a bad one. No one sh1t tests you like a Russian. The men are always going to see what they can get away with and the women are always sh1t testing you. If you cannot handle an American woman, you are not going to be able to handle a Russian one.

Saying that, as long as you provide and as long as you are not a doormat, I cannot think of women who make better wives and mothers. If you are weak and if you are cheap/broke you dont really stand a chance with the good looking ones I am afraid.

I have been to a few of the places you have listed St8up, so will give you my views on them.

Russia


Women are incredible. Hot women everywhere and in such large numbers your own standards become ridiculous after a while. The women are not just hot though. Intelligent and have many interests outside the usual shopping, ****ing and drinking western women consider part of a healthy social life. They are blunt though and very competitive, which means that they tend to come with drama sometimes. Many turn a blind eye to you having a mistress or two if you can afford it, but thats the case thoughout most of Eastern Europe. Its such a diverse country and there is so much to see and do you cant ever be bored. If you like history and art, Russia is a great location.

The weather is terrible though. Im an outdoors kinda guy and I could not tolerate the weather. In St Petersburg, your facial hair freezes. Its also expensive compared to most of Europe and your cost of living is sky high.A decent standard of living will be higher than in the USA by a fair margin. You need about $5000-$6000 a month to get by comfortably, and about $10 000 per month to be considered upper middle class. Make no mistake, as poor as most Russians are, there is a lot of money there and the Russians have a thing for opulence.

You will need to learn to speak russian. English is growing, but unless you can speak it you are going to struggle. The biggest problem you will have is culture shock. Living in Russia is like living in the twilight zone. I loved it and I detested it at the same time. I could not go back there for anything but a holiday. Its a violent, corrupt place with so many social issues. I would use the word "God Forsaken", but having been born and raised in Africa, I reserve that statement for that sh1t hole alone.

If you must live in Russia, look at the areas 30kms-40km outside Moscow.

Eastern Europe

So many countries to choose from. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are cold, but they are a bit cheaper than Russia. Estonian women are gorgeous though and being close to Scandanavia, the opportunity to travel north on the cheap is there. If you like winter sports, its a great place to be. There is also the Czech Republic. Prague has become a tourist trap, but the further away from the capital you are the better I think it would be to live.

I prefer further south though. Romania is a sh1t pit, which is unfortunate because Romanian women take my breath away. Hottest women on the planet. People always say Ukrainian and Russian women. For me, its the Romanians. Bulgaria is an option though as it will join the EU soon enough. The weather is much better and you are near the black sea and the Mediterranean. Its not too expensive, it does not have the social issues that many of the other eastern european countries have. The women are also gorgeous

Ukraine would be a terrible place to live, but its a great place to go on holiday and get laid. Poor, social issues. Again, better be able to speak Russian. Poland is good for a holiday, but the culture of the people makes it difficult to get lucky at times. Polish women outside Poland are a different story, but in Poland they tend to be religious. This is the kind of place the Jophils of the world should be living in to find their quality women.

If I were going to live in Eastern Europe, I would choose either Croatia or Bulgaria. Women are beautiful, you are close to Europe and Russia, the weather is great, its not expensive and the culture is welcoming.

The greatest thing about Europe is that your age means nothing. Women in their 20's often refuse to date men under 30. In your 40's and 50's, 20 year old women are still very keen.

Phillipines/Thailand

Only ever been on a holiday. I dont think the women are that good looking. Some really gems, but compared to eastern Europe, Russia and South America, there is no comparison. The people are great though and life there is very cheap. You can get by on $1000 a month easily. Unless you want to live the beach bum lifestyle and chase young asian women like half the British expats, I dont quite understand the appeal of the place.

I dunno, maybe its because Asia holds very little appeal for me.

Colombia

Jesus these women are hot. And horny. And hot. And FARKIN horny. Weather is good, food is good, the people are awesome, its cheap, there is so much to see and do. Certain parts are dangerous, but most of the country is pretty safe. I have been twice, first time with a Colombian GF, second time on my own for a 4 month holiday.

I could see myself living there in a heartbeat and I think it is where I may eventually end up. Its poor and there are social issues, but its a great place to live if you have money

Argentina/Brazil

Argentina is more European. I like it a lot but have not spent enough time there to know if it would be a great place to live. A lot of expats there though, which tells me it might not be the worst place either. Women I found to be very cold.

Brazil on the other hand. That place was built for sin. I have intentions of spending more time there and its to see if its not an alternative to Colombia if I decide to migrate that side of the world

My advice would be to take a time out for a long period, say 12-18 months, and spend 3-5 months in a few different places. Only then will you know if its for you or not. Its a long break away from your life, but there are worse ways to spend your time