"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Moving Quickly vs Taking Your Time for the First Call/Date

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There are two schools of thought

Wait a few days (3-5) then call her and ask her out for a mid-week date. This demonstrates that you are not "desperate" nor "needy" and that you aren't heavily invested in her. This is the standard - 95% of the time.

Act Now - if you are clicking, call her sooner and just ask her out for whenever you are available. You don't care if you will seem desperate because she's into you and wants you to call.

On Monday, I got a girl's number in my class. She's not a total stranger as I've talked to her a few times before in person. I texted her a few hours later something like "hey this is xxx from class, save me in your phone" and she responded "Thanks i'm saving you now :)"

Last night, she initiates texts asking about some homework. I took my time to respond and we went back and forth a few times and then I stopped responding.

Tonight, I'm going to call her and ask her out for this Friday. Why?

- I think she has high IL (IOIs in person, texts me first)
- She's pretty hot
- I don't have set plans on Friday

Most importantly:

- I don't care if she says no


I will report back the results.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Ring.. ring..

HB: Hello?
Me: Hey it's me
HB: Hi!
Me: What's up
HB: blah blah
Me: some blah blah small talk
...
Me: So let's get together Friday
HB: Oh I can't hun I'm going away to my aunts for Easter weekend.
Me: OK no problem maybe we'll talk next week
HB: What about tomorrow?
Me: I'm going out with some friends (true) but not until later. Let's get a drink at 8 then.
HB: OK yes where?
Me: blah blah bar at 8pm. I'll talk to you later
HB: ok hun see you then!

Never had a girl call me "hun" on the first date call.

Had a great time last night on the "date". Kino-ing a ton. Wanted to highlight the kiss close conversation because I was so proud of myself for handling it the way I did:

We walk to her car.

HB: Ok goodnight
Me: (take hand, turn her body toward me, go in for kiss)
HB: What are you doing?
Me: What I want.

Kiss-close.

She texted me about an hour ago:
HB: Hi hun thanks again I had a great time!!!!

Haha!
 

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Uncharted said:
There are two schools of thought

Wait a few days (3-5) then call her and ask her out for a mid-week date. This demonstrates that you are not "desperate" nor "needy" and that you aren't heavily invested in her. This is the standard - 95% of the time.

Act Now - if you are clicking, call her sooner and just ask her out for whenever you are available. You don't care if you will seem desperate because she's into you and wants you to call.
Yeah, it's not what you do, it's how you do it, how you deliver it.
 

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Goddamn that kiss close moment is an anxious one. Very well played out. And I would choose the Act Now school of thought. If interest is there you can mail her a pile of your fresh crapper and she'll think it's cute. If she finds you repulsive, you can buy her a Bentley and she'll still find you, well, repulsive.

Good luck with this one, keep us posted.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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