"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Moving in with my girl - good or bad idea?

Hellboy

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Hey guys,

My girl is about to start looking for a new place to live. She might move in with her current flatmate but her flatmate might move away and she will need a new flatmate. We have been together nearly 6 months and 99% of the time things are amazing and we seem to be in love.

I jokingly suggested we get a place together. Although she didn't jump on the idea I get the impression she sould be open to it. At least, if I was more serious about it. If I want to move in with this girl I can probably make it happen. If I don't want to then I can just keep quiet.

I just wondered if anyone has any thoughts, opinions or experiences to share?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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SamePendo

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Anti Dump said not to live with a woman unless you are married... unless I´m mistaken.

Why? I have no idea.
Would I do it? I have no idea.
Do I want somebody to explain why Anti Dump said that? Yes.
 

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fyck anti dump :) jk....some of its good.


HELLMAN

move in with her..but dont sign contract with her..just help her with the payments...as long as thre is no contract the worst can happen is a break up

and you and I both know this is the last women for you :)
 

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I dunno, man. Six months isn't really that long. I dated a girl for two years before finally realizing she wasn't marriage material. If you are ready for full-time commitment, then move in with her. If you'd still like some time to yourself, I'd say don't do it.

~Vibe~
 

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it depends.

i think in general its a bad idea. Besides the obvious statistics showing that moving in together before marriages ****s up the relationship, it can be a pain living with a girl unless you are REALLY commited to her.


you've only known her for 6 months and you think you're in love?

don't do it man. I mean it would be fun for a little bit, but there is a lot more potential for drama than for happiness.

what's with the oneitis anyways?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If you liked your girl now, then prepare to start disliking her once you move in with her. Moving in with a girlfriend will expose all her flaws as flaws come out in the open by being stuck with that person.
 

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Originally posted by Hellboy
We have been together nearly 6 months and 99% of the time things are amazing and we seem to be in love.

If you want everything to continue to be "amazing", do NOT move in with her.
 

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If you liked your girl now, then prepare to start disliking her once you move in with her. Moving in with a girlfriend will expose all her flaws as flaws come out in the open by being stuck with that person.
hes right stay single the rest of your life...you wont find a perfect women:eek:



If you want everything to continue to be "amazing", do NOT move in with her.
got proof for this?

the man is in his mid 20's.....why would he want to live alone still?


you've only known her for 6 months and you think you're in love?

yes he is in love. stop reading a fycking manual and go expierence what life really happens.


what's with the oneitis anyways?

one i tis? so he cares for one women, commits to her, and fyks her brains out he has one i tis???

:down:
 

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I've done that before, I can tell you that it was not a good experience at all.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Whooo!

Overall pretty negative. I see a lot of guys saying "Don't do it!" But not a lot of reason why. Chuchu, it wasn't as good experience? Why?

It's just an idea at this stage.
 

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Originally posted by SamePendo
Anti Dump said not to live with a woman unless you are married... unless I´m mistaken.

Why? I have no idea.
Would I do it? I have no idea.
Do I want somebody to explain why Anti Dump said that? Yes.
Originally posted by Anti-Dump
A Don Juan NEVER proposes before six months. He prefers to wait one year. All minor flaws must be seen.

A Don Juan never lives with a women. He is a free man. He will marry the BEST when he meets her.

If he already moves in with her, his freedom is essentially gone (marriage is not freedom but sacrifice, why not get married then?). A man's home is like a king's castle, he should run it his way, unless he finds a woman worthy enough to be his queen then they can share the appropriate duties. If a woman is not his queen then why would he move in with her and have her interfere with the one thing he has total control over, his home.
 

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NOOOO!!!!!!!!

i don't know haw it is in the US, but here in canada if you live together for more then 6 months she gets the same rights as if you ware married to her. (or so i thought)
 

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If he already moves in with her, his freedom is essentially gone (marriage is not freedom but sacrifice, why not get married then?). A man's home is like a king's castle, he should run it his way, unless he finds a woman worthy enough to be his queen then they can share the appropriate duties. If a woman is not his queen then why would he move in with her and have her interfere with the one thing he has total control over, his home.

thats right.

NOOOO!!!!!!!!

why?
 

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Originally posted by Hellboy
Whooo!

Overall pretty negative. I see a lot of guys saying "Don't do it!" But not a lot of reason why. Chuchu, it wasn't as good experience? Why?

It's just an idea at this stage.
Go ahead and try it. The after you end up moving out on your own again, come back and tell us. Maybe we're all wrong...who knows. All I know is what I've seen friends go through.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I STOLE THIS FROM SOMEONE ON A DIFFERENT SITE..

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS SITE GOES..AND WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU HELLBOY:



New guy X asks a LTR question.
- Keyboard jock Y says read the bible
- PUA (wanna-be) says "next her" get more experience
- Random kid Z says something completely off base with reality
- A normal guy who has gone through life experiencing relationships and dating responds with something that make s a lot of sense(
- PUA flames him
- Keyboard jock calls the normal guy an AFC
- Original poster is confused and is back where he started





I know you are in love with her..I know you plan on being with her for the rest of your life...unlike the blokes at this place Im not going to play with you....I want to be with my gf the rest of my life too..
I plan moving in with her next yr after being together for over a yr.

grantide 6 months is a shorter period of time.

but a relationship isnt linear...
you know how well you know her.and you know what she is like.

why because your a man with expierence...positive expierence...that has helped you open up and love the way you do.

unlike the fakes, frauds, and pyssys who havent gotten a women to truely love them and have no fycking clue what they are saying.

so all in all dont ask for LTR advice here.



OH AND BY THE WAY:

im not refering to all you of..just the ones who know they have no bussiness even commenting on this mans LTR question..giving him advice they have no expierence on.
 

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HellBoy are you refering to "Goth Girl" as your girl? For some reasons I can never picture a girl who is into Goth being a great LTR and or a mother. I see Goth Girls as being very wild and kinky in bed but most of them seem very depressed to me (which is never a good thing when you live with someone, it can drive the other people insane) . This is of coarse my generalization of the Goth Culture and if that is not the case, please enlighten me.
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
I STOLE THIS FROM SOMEONE ON A DIFFERENT SITE..

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS SITE GOES..AND WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU HELLBOY:



New guy X asks a LTR question.
- Keyboard jock Y says read the bible
- PUA (wanna-be) says "next her" get more experience
- Random kid Z says something completely off base with reality
- A normal guy who has gone through life experiencing relationships and dating responds with something that make s a lot of sense(
- PUA flames him
- Keyboard jock calls the normal guy an AFC
- Original poster is confused and is back where he started





I know you are in love with her..I know you plan on being with her for the rest of your life...unlike the blokes at this place Im not going to play with you....I want to be with my gf the rest of my life too..
I plan moving in with her next yr after being together for over a yr.

grantide 6 months is a shorter period of time.

but a relationship isnt linear...
you know how well you know her.and you know what she is like.

why because your a man with expierence...positive expierence...that has helped you open up and love the way you do.

unlike the fakes, frauds, and pyssys who havent gotten a women to truely love them and have no fycking clue what they are saying.

so all in all dont ask for LTR advice here.
Well, I've been in a 4 year and a 2 year relationship. Guess what, I'm not with either of them anymore. I know enough to advise a man against moving in with a woman that he just met SIX months ago.

Enough with all of the fluffy, lovey dovey, lets give eachother high fives because we're the only guys on this site to find true love, crap. Back to reality: It's probably not a good idea.
 

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Originally posted by frivolousz21


the man is in his mid 20's.....why would he want to live alone still?

yes he is in love. stop reading a fycking manual and go expierence what life really happens.


one i tis? so he cares for one women, commits to her, and fyks her brains out he has one i tis???
:down:
I only speak from over 6 years of combined LTR experience. And manuals? **** manuals. open your eyes and try to understand relationships. Its really not that simple.

moving in after a 6 month relationship is a huge risk. I didn't say that he shouldn't do it, i just said its a bad idea.
 

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Enough with all of the fluffy, lovey dovey, lets give eachother high fives because we're the only guys on this site to find true love, crap. Back to reality: It's probably not a good idea.
reality is he is happy..if it doenst work out then it doesnt work out?

obviosly it didnt ruin or end your life to not be with the women your not with anymore.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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