"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Forty0ztoFreedom

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Well I've been AFC-ing about this girl for a couple of weeks and bothering you all with pathetic threads.

I am calling tommorow for a second date. Forgetting all the analyzing I've done (believing things I have no proof on based on fear). Forgetting the fear. No more am I going to "gauge interest." Only "action" and moving forward.

Even if it looked/looks like this was un-salvageable, even if it crashes & burns, I have nothing to lose. This is a step forward, IMO, even if I get turned down. It will still be a step forward, rather than cutting & running based on fear of being hurt. (rationalizing it as cutting off contact b/c she "disrespected me" . . I am not a DJ yet, I can't pretend to be)

Also, I made a thread about a fear of moving out. Today I decided I am. Its time to grow up. Its official, I am going to be on my own. I may even start DJ Boot-camp soon . . BTW, I love the DJ bible but noticed some questionable comments about it here. Has it become cliche and outdated or something?

This is the LAST thread I start on this girl, unless its a successful report on a second date. I promise this to myself. Tomorrow is my, ahem, her, last chance.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hey man i just wanted to add something since i had the same issue in some ways. Dont think about her and just move on and do something else. If you have nothing going on in your life or no ohter women thats when you get hit with the feelings. Feelings are bad for the first few months or weeks depends.

PS I keep hearing about dj boot camp can u explain. there needs to be a SoSuave dictionary lol.
 
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Forty0ztoFreedom

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Well maybe a more experienced member can answer your question better but I believe its just a series of tasks set over a certain time designed to get us used to getting out there and trying to get chicks.

As for my scenario, a perfectly predictable outcome. She's with a "friend" out to dinner. I assume its some dude. She's going on the trip and won't be available the next 2 saturdays. I ask, "How bout the next Saturday?" She gives a hesitated "possibly" and asks if she could get back to me. I say sure, "See you around." And hang up.

Game over, I'm guessing. I am right to "next" this girl right, and not just flying off the handle?
 
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