"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Most women hit the wall in their 30's, but few, actually don't

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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In my early 30's I dated many attractive girls that were 35-45. It was kind of a niche group on the dating apps, many of them did some form of modeling in their prime. Most of the guys my age didn't want these girls because of their age. The women in this age group didn't want the guys in their age group because most of them weren't in shape. So lets just say I found a "honey hole" of talent to pick from.

Most of the time its girls that can look 10yrs younger than they actually are, have good genetics, and take care of their skin.

Very few look good after 50. Skin only stays elastic for so long and eventually gravity wins.
 

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Depends on from what angle you look at it.

If you know or knew a woman in her 20's and meet her again 10 years later ...she might've declined. But if you meet her for the first time at lets say 34 she can still ne sexy, pretty have charisma ect.

I do have to say that its sometimes staggering to see how cruel father time can be...one "superpower " that men CAN devolpe is the knowledge of understanding that that pretty woman will definitely get less pretty as time moves on. Great way to get over a woman you've fancied...
 

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Weisz was at her most beautiful in pics 1-2. Girl's success at avoiding the wall was less remarkable than John Walsh's efforts at winding his way through fatherhood uneventfully

In any event though:

Entirely too many folks of both genders create and then cling to delusions of having "made it" once their 3rd decade of life rolls around, cease putting effort into themselves, and subsequently degenerate. Not surprising then that most don't hold up well
 
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the wall is about late 40s. between 45 and 50ish. there is a window of time early 40 where some women really spruce up... often behavior is better at 40 than at 35...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I have always said that 40 is the new 20 keep in mind she's rich and has access to skin treatments like the Kardashians .Also don't just go for looks alot of us have been played by great looking girls hence the purpose of this site!
 

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the wall is about late 40s.
Yes I do agree with you.
The window close at 40/45.

I know a very pretty woman, and she changed so much from 35 to 40's, but from 40 to 45 she lost every point
 

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The wall to sleep with a woman is about 35.

The wall for a woman's companionship doesn't exist.
 

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I’ve always meant to post this. I knew the woman from a while back. She has four kids now and lives in a different city. She’s around 38. I don’t know the guy, but it looks like he may have kids as well.

The first picture is from 2018, when they were both with different partners but were during the same social circle. The second picture is from a couple of months ago. They’re now engaged to each other.

This just proves that men will accept almost anything, while women will always find a suitor regardless of their circumstances.
 
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