"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Most of you dont deserve girls. You're schemers.I had to warn them

Boilermaker

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hahaha
what a big troll..

Yeah, we seduce them, we trick them and we fvck them.

And then they turn back to manginas like you to complain about us.

Except that you sleazy invertebrates also try slip into their pants, with the only difference that your strategy is to roll over and hope that they will sleep with you one day. Because you have been "there" for them, am I right?

Who is the real schemer here, you moron?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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And here we were thinking black jews would be well liked.
 

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We can make all the "hamster brain" references we like, but the bottom line is women aren't stupid.

I/we might not agree with everything they do, but they know exactly what they want and are doing. I chuckle when newbies say "She doesn't know what she wants."

We aren't manipulating them. They are willing participants as Floyd said.
 

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MisterD said:
A combination of words and actions ARE what makes a woman like you. What else is there besides words and actions?

This forum is merely a place where men can learn what works and what doesn't when it comes to attracting women.

Most of us here tried the nice guy thing. Didn't work.

When women stop being shallow and hypergamous, when they stop acting entitled, when they stop dating douchebags and start dating nice guys, then the skills learned here will be obsolete and everything will be right with the world. The fact is, that won't happen. Girls won't change. The stuff here works because women allow it to.

Spot on !:)
 

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I think you also have to look at the kind of women guys on here are going for. Yea, they keep saying "women", as if its all of them, but its usually a certain type. No different from the girls chasing after bad boys and what not. Theyre usually the same type, actually. Just listen to the whining that goes on, and it becomes pretty clear.

Whats basically happening is, guys are chasing after women who are already experienced and know the game. Many of whom are players, and revolve their lives around this crap. They KNOW theyre in demand. Hence why they frequent bars and parties, are obsessed with status, are fake and shallow, jump from guy to guy, **** around, dress flashy, love money, have orbiters and doormats, play games and manipulate men, believe to be of high class (hence the entitlement, flaking, immediate loss of interest, and rediculous standards), are highly sought after, and so forth. Sure, the guys complain, but thats because theyre idiots. Its all right here - on virtually every post and rant. This is who theyre chasing after and complaining about.

So, by warning these women - not that its even possible - youre not accomplishing anything. They already cheat, use, lie, decieve, manipulate, conive, and are full into this lifestyle. Youre just sympathazing with losers, is all.

These guys are NOT chasing after innocent nice girls. They chase after players, try to play them, then complain about being played. Thus, no one is innocent.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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floydb25 said:
Whats basically happening is, guys are chasing after women who are already experienced and know the game. Many of whom are players, and revolve their lives around this crap. They KNOW theyre in demand. Hence why they frequent bars and parties, are obsessed with status, are fake and shallow, jump from guy to guy, **** around, dress flashy, love money, have orbiters and doormats, play games and manipulate men, believe to be of high class (hence the entitlement, flaking, immediate loss of interest, and rediculous standards), are highly sought after, and so forth. Sure, the guys complain, but thats because theyre idiots. Its all right here - on virtually every post and rant. This is who theyre chasing after and complaining about.

So, by warning these women - not that its even possible - youre not accomplishing anything. They already cheat, use, lie, decieve, manipulate, conive, and are full into this lifestyle. Youre just sympathazing with losers, is all.

These guys are NOT chasing after innocent nice girls. They chase after players, try to play them, then complain about being played. Thus, no one is innocent.
Floyd spot on...

But the thing is, unless you are chasing 16 year olds....or even younger nowadays.....most girls even remotely attractive will have tons of male attention in high school...which means she will start developing her arrogance then when she's 16

...facebook will allow here to multiply this attention 100X...any hot 16 year old will have 30 dudes chasing her....so by the time she's 18 and in college the hottie will be ready to gangbang foot ball players and friendzone nerds to do her homework.

that is the real problem today...you have to play the slvt game...because all the hotties have been gamed since they were 15....

if you want to step below hb6 chicks maybe you can get a good one...but even 6s are arrogant nowadays...
 

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Burroughs said:
Floyd spot on...

But the thing is, unless you are chasing 16 year olds....or even younger nowadays.....most girls even remotely attractive will have tons of male attention in high school...which means she will start developing her arrogance then when she's 16

...facebook will allow here to multiply this attention 100X...any hot 16 year old will have 30 dudes chasing her....so by the time she's 18 and in college the hottie will be ready to gangbang foot ball players and friendzone nerds to do her homework.

that is the real problem today...you have to play the slvt game...because all the hotties have been gamed since they were 15.... if you want to step below hb6 chicks maybe you can get a good one...but even 6s are arrogant nowadays...
Burroughs and Floyd, your 2 posts here shoud be in the Dj bible as quotes, I wonder why that doesn´t exist yet. There should be a book of quotes. Give these women a hard time, don´t drool over them, don´t do things for them just because they have a big a$$! Stop feeding the troll!!!

These women may have facesh!t to boost their ego, but men have sosuave! As the quote says:

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going."
:rockon:
 

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@ Toast123

..and why may I ask are you here? Apparently 'your' way of picking up gals isn't working well either.

Loser
 

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As an American with Dutch decent...

OP is still a f@ggot.
 

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bradd80 said:
toast123 is the ultimate AFC and white knight. He'll be one of those guys who's wife divorces him and takes all his sh*t. Then he'll come back here complaining to us about what an ungrateful b*tch she was all the while wondering what the hell happened.
He is neither of those things. He's just a troll.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Instead of bashing this 'Israeli of African descent'. How about we don't give a fvck about this guy and close this thread?
 

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no-one should have posted anymore after I replied "did someone say something?" just silence, like going ghost on a chick .....

saying nothing sometimes is better than saying anything at all.....
 
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