Most Men Have ZERO Selectivity

[ALnotAI]

An acquaintance of mine was bragging about a girl he had ****ed. I was surprised, given his appearance. They mystery was cleared up when he pointed to a girl he thought was "hot." She was extremely fat. The type who needs two seats rather than one on a commercial flight.

I see this over and over again. Most guys I know who are actively getting laid fall into a few categories:

1. they are ****ing fatties or even worse, make fatties their girlfriends

2. they are ****ing ugly girls

3. they are financing a hot girlfriend. All of her bills are paid. This sometimes includes a house. A nice house. And this is even without getting married, or even a child. Basically, all of the hot girls are on a man's payroll, and increasingly on several men's payrolls.

4. there are guys, especially in large cities, who rely on a network of sex workers more or less exclusively.

5. a small percentage of men who have access to the majority of hot women WITHOUT financing them. This is a celebrity tier, or quasi-celebrity tier which most guys should not bother to give much attention to. After all, most guys are perfectly happy banging whoever, regardless of looks. This top tier or two is the only category of guys who have access to a SERIES of hot women.

6. a very significant percentage of men (maybe a quarter or less) MARRY a hot woman. These guys tend to have the most successful lifestyles. Many are rich but most are not. This includes a large but silent minority of men in a wide variety of occupations: firefighter, police, military, upper management and of course a few CEO's and even celebs.

This is why forums like this are often nonsensical. Without a baseline knowledge of the looks and status of both the males and females involved, it's impossible to offer relevant, accurate feedback.

The good news is, there IS a path to hot women for normal guys: this means marrying a hot woman by investing 100% emotionally and financially in her.

Too bad this forum doesn't talk about this since this is in fact a) most guys' best chance of access b) these guys have a very high quality of life (not just because they married a hot wife but because they live a healthy lifestyle that includes. a strong monogamous relationship).

 

[sosousage]

why are you claiming women are after money? you are evil

 

[mrgoodstuff]

why are you claiming women are after money? you are evil

Fvck a bytch who just wants your $. It can be some other simp.

 

[Serenity]

The good news is, there IS a path to hot women for normal guys: this means marrying a hot woman by investing 100% emotionally and financially in her.

That's not good news at all. I will never invest 100% financially in a woman, if she doesn't help pull the load of living life she has no place by my side. They're supposed to be partners, not pets. Given this I'm willing to invest a significant part of emotion, but there's no such thing as 100%. For that she has to earn my admiration through more useful qualities than bedroom gymnastics and a pretty exterior. Especially if you're going to marry someone you should prioritize her character, not how hot she looks today because looks will fade and marriage is supposed to be reserved for a lifetime partner. There is divorce, but nobody wants to go through that.

The statement I quoted is the undoing of MANY men as they give it all for a woman, because in the cases the woman wants a divorce your life falls to pieces and chances are you'll be on the brink of suicide. What you're suggesting is reckless.

Never sacrifice yourself or give anyone the power to make or break your life, it's extremely foolish.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That's not good news at all. I will never invest 100% financially in a woman, if she doesn't help pull the load of living life she has no place by my side. They're supposed to be partners, not pets. Given this I'm willing to invest a significant part of emotion, but there's no such thing as 100%. For that she has to earn my admiration through more useful qualities than bedroom gymnastics and a pretty exterior. Especially if you're going to marry someone you should prioritize her character, not how hot she looks today because looks will fade and marriage is supposed to be reserved for a lifetime partner. There is divorce, but nobody wants to go through that.

The statement I quoted is the undoing of MANY men as they give it all for a woman, because in the cases the woman wants a divorce your life falls to pieces and chances are you'll be on the brink of suicide. What you're suggesting is reckless.

Never sacrifice yourself or give anyone the power to make or break your life, it's extremely foolish.

How many times do us stupid men have to learn this lesson?

 

[Von]

That's not good news at all. I will never invest 100% financially in a woman, if she doesn't help pull the load of living life she has no place by my side. They're supposed to be partners, not pets. Given this I'm willing to invest a significant part of emotion, but there's no such thing as 100%. For that she has to earn my admiration through more useful qualities than bedroom gymnastics and a pretty exterior. Especially if you're going to marry someone you should prioritize her character, not how hot she looks today because looks will fade and marriage is supposed to be reserved for a lifetime partner. There is divorce, but nobody wants to go through that.

The statement I quoted is the undoing of MANY men as they give it all for a woman, because in the cases the woman wants a divorce your life falls to pieces and chances are you'll be on the brink of suicide. What you're suggesting is reckless.

Never sacrifice yourself or give anyone the power to make or break your life, it's extremely foolish.

Agreed.

Also, you given the mindset of a guy with options or a head on his shoulder and experience in dating.

Alot of guys ''date down''... because they aren't confident or they are weak.

A strong guy will ''partner/LTR'' a women that makes his life BETTER.... He understands the importance of look but he doesn't put it has a ''main criteria''. He will be able to choose from all the HB level cause he's that good.

People focusing on Look only are stock at the ''primal state of male'' : Look first.... That's usually guys who don't get laid.

Look is sure good for the eyes.... but like eye-candy... it can leave a sour taste

Some guys just want to get laid... they will bed anything that moves.

 

[IKO69]

In a relationship one person will generally lead. You want that to be you, you don't want to constantly be butting heads.

That said if you do want a meaningful relationship, you will want to invest in the woman. If you can find a smart, ambitious, hard working woman you can both work towards a common goal together. This is why it's important to screen your women and find one's that are on the same page as you.

My cousin and his wife both went into real estate and that's what they are doing. This has also brought them closer I believe. This is what I am talking about.

 

[Serenity]

How many times do us stupid men have to learn this lesson?

As many times as it takes to start thinking with the big head instead of the small one. It is easy to get stuck in the mindset that it's either a hot or a good woman, then rationalize bad behavior from a hot woman as the price to be paid for a hot woman. It's absolute bullsh!t, there are plenty of women who are both hot and has good character. If the dichotomy was true though I'd compromise on looks to get a good woman, life is too short to live in misery and no amount of eye-candy can weigh up for it.

Luckily it's a false dichotomy and it's possible to get the best of both worlds.

 

[sosousage]

how can most men have any selectivity if in this social media and tinder era all girls only date top 20% men and maybe some beta with good job from time to time to cheat on him later?


if women date top 20% of men, then 80% of men has nothing,and will **** first girl that will let them

 

[IKO69]

how can most men have any selectivity if in this social media and tinder era all girls only date top 20% men and maybe some beta with good job from time to time to cheat on him later?


if women date top 20% of men, then 80% of men has nothing,and will **** first girl that will let them

Most women would be lucky to be near a "20%'er". Most women have to deal with men who are in their immediate environment and guess what? Most women don't live in LA, Miami, NY or have connections to top athletes, actors, business men and other people of note. Most women probably will not even be close to a guy who goes on to make $200k a year. Just because some ****head used the pareto principle in a dating context doesn't mean that's how it works.

 

[RangerMIke]

Life is a compromise, but if you surrender your life to a woman, then it isn't your life anymore. If you have to surrender perfection to maintain some control... well in the long run you'll be better off.

I've seen lots of men date down, that's not unusual. In my experience there is such a thing called the triangle of dating; women encompass three factors: Hotness, Intelligence, and Sanity. Normally you get to pick two. An intelligent and sane chick, who isn't 'hot' is normal. Some guys will make that deal. If you are lucky to find one with all three... well... you will have a lot of competition to keep her, so you better be the best version of yourself to stand a chance.

I really can't deal with fatness, if all you are meeting and dating are fat chicks you are not looking in the right places and you are not the best version of yourself you can be. For me... well I compromise on sanity.... as long as she isn't too crazy, because today most chicks I meet at at least a little damaged. I can deal with that, but if she is stupid and isn't attractive enough to turn me on, there really is little you can do to fix this or deal with it.

 

[marmel75]

Also most men are not willing to continuously upgrade their plates. They get a few plates and then are happy...no, unless its your GF you should always be looking to replace the bottom one with someone better and keep doing this until tou have all high quality women there.

 

[Serenity]

how can most men have any selectivity if in this social media and tinder era all girls only date top 20% men and maybe some beta with good job from time to time to cheat on him later?


if women date top 20% of men, then 80% of men has nothing,and will **** first girl that will let them

It's a catch-22, it's harder for men to be selective because so many aren't. As a result many women are selective as men throw themselves at them and they do as anyone would do, pick the best and leave the rest.

Men collectively becoming more selective would not fix this issue in the short run, but in the long run it would force women into the same position as many men are in now, to become less selective or remain alone.

So how can most men have selectivity? Quite simply by being more selective. Giving up based on your rationalizations certainly isn't the way to go.

 

[raider87]

Most women would be lucky to be near a "20%'er". Most women have to deal with men who are in their immediate environment and guess what? Most women don't live in LA, Miami, NY or have connections to top athletes, actors, business men and other people of note. Most women probably will not even be close to a guy who goes on to make $200k a year. Just because some ****head used the pareto principle in a dating context doesn't mean that's how it works.

Good post Mayorga!

 

[MatureDJ]

In my experience there is such a thing called the triangle of dating; women encompass three factors: Hotness, Intelligence, and Sanity. Normally you get to pick two.

I'd say that at most Intelligence is a wash; intelligent men (typically, at least for a relationship) only want intelligence women, and dumb men don't care. Intelligence is actually something that makes a man more desirable to a woman, especially to intelligent women. And I would add 2 other attributes in the equation: Attitude & Unstuckupness. The difficult combo to swing is Hot & Attitude that is Unstuckup enough to give the suitor a chance.

 

[R.U.G.]

Bros, the average marriage that end in divorce within the US is 7 - 8 years (source: https://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p70-125.pdf & https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2014/02/14/when-the-embers-grow-cold). Why would any man with half a brain want to sign up for this? That's about the time a woman has a kid or two and is now "unhappy". The man tries to reason and figure out what's the deal and worth through the issues, no luck. DIVORCE. If you like running in a hamsters wheel for the rest of your life, be my guest. However, that move will have dire consequences. It' not women, per se. It's the current modern culture of trading up when it's time. I am sure men do it to. However, women hold the majority of the divorces.

As for why men fvck fat or ugly women? I do not know. Perhaps, low standards or no standards at all? It's sad. I cannot have sex with a woman unless I am attracted to her. Yes, there needs to be substance, but there also has to be attraction. Guess I'm weird. Surprise.

 

[Spaz]

The good news is, there IS a path to hot women for normal guys: this means marrying a hot woman by investing 100% emotionally and financially in her.

Reckless, beyond stupid and pure feminist gibberish.

Some men just deserves to be fvcked.

 

[sosousage]

Reckless, beyond stupid and pure feminist gibberish.

Some men just deserves to be fvcked.

i think it should be enough that we fund condoms

 

[17 shots]

OP I'll smash a fatty if she's got a huge booty, and I'll smash an ugly chick if her body is nice... I've got that real caveman DNA. Don't judge us

 

[Spaz]

OP I'll smash a fatty if she's got a huge booty, and I'll smash an ugly chick if her body is nice... I've got that real caveman DNA. Don't judge us

My d1ck just shrunk just by reading the word "fat".

Must be my caveman DNA screaming don't fvck that whale of a woman !