Most men are bluepilled.. even the one with fame

[Pumax]

What could we learn from it?

Look at how these men actually rely on their wives.
And from their interviews and life, you can actually see how their approach to life it's bluepill.

This is the most important thing to men, if they can believe in something, if they can believe they can have that woman for a lifetime, they live a happy life inside the fable.

If they know about the redpill, they will now know the true female nature so they won't neither believe in a woman, so they will also lose that "inner" strenght that drive their life.

You can see that the happiness/positive attitude to life of those men, it's actually because they have the "script" in mind (find the right person, etc).

Examples
http://instagr.am/p/DVCoDzWAYjO/

and
http://instagr.am/p/DAUlP1nuiZ3/
There are more, but the concept is just the same.

 

[Gamisch]

Bro..first I thought that like 85% of men wete bluepilled. Recently this forum showed me its actually 95%. Suddenly marriage is becoming a hot topic again.

And thats crazy ,because in order to believe that one woman will stick with you forever evah you need to be bluepilled to the core. To believe she won't be able to detach and get feeling for another man for decades...THAT'S the bluepill ideology!

" Forget female nature , Im so special that those rules don't apply for me".

Most men go through painful droughts. Marriage is the ultimate flex, like jumping in the ocean to swim with the sharks thinkingyoull come out without harm. Most men are indeed bluepilled, and thus the world will always adjust to the bluepill agenda via politics, religion, and overall influence from famous people. It is what it is..

 

[Travel memoir21]

Bro..first I thought that like 85% of men wete bluepilled. Recently this forum showed me its actually 95%. Suddenly marriage is becoming a hot topic again.

And thats crazy ,because in order to believe that one woman will stick with you forever evah you need to be bluepilled to the core. To believe she won't be able to detach and get feeling for another man for decades...THAT'S the bluepill ideology!

" Forget female nature , Im so special that those rules don't apply for me".

Most men go through painful droughts. Marriage is the ultimate flex, like jumping in the ocean to swim with the sharks thinkingyoull come out without harm. Most men are indeed bluepilled, and thus the world will always adjust to the bluepill agenda via politics, religion, and overall influence from famous people. It is what it is..

Your experience is different from a guy like Cornbread or a Rollo Tomassi. Both married guys but red pill in their own right. You’ve been married or been in a serious relationship before and you got children, so mission accomplished man…you’ve got kids now so those takes more of a priority probably. But what advise would you give to that horny twenty year old dude…that’s the question.

 

[Bigpapa]

If they know about the redpill, they will now know the true female nature so they won't neither believe in a woman, so they will also lose that "inner" strenght that drive their life.

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redpill is more toxic to men than blue pill is

i would take any day a guy that has no idea over a red pilled guy

I would take even a pua guy that talks a lot of sh1t over a red pilled guy, mainly because at least the pua guys tries. A red pilled guy is just a keyboard jockey

 

[BaronOfHair]

Achieving fame and wealth in one's teens and 20s has drawbacks which are seldom acknowledged in anything but vague terms, such as "They didn't realize how lucky they were". We're dealing with a far more specific malady here though:

When a fella goes from being relatively unnoticed to suddenly surrounded by cooter who APPEAR to have the hots for him as an individual, the urge to believe his own hype/not develop his social acumen can become extraordinarily strong


Ain't surprising that so many within this same demographic are destitute, and that their glory days are relics of a bygone era, by time their 30s roll around

 

[Gamisch]

Your experience is different from a guy like Cornbread or a Rollo Tomassi. Both married guys but red pill in their own right. You’ve been married or been in a serious relationship before and you got children, so mission accomplished man…you’ve got kids now so those takes more of a priority probably. But what advise would you give to that horny twenty year old dude…that’s the question.

Id tell him;

Your best bet is to ditch women after 6 months. Focus on getting money, wealth, mastering skills . Always take care of your body and mind ofcourse. But no matter who mighty you are, ANy man can get taken down by a woman. You want kids? Just get them. Kids won't guarantee a happy LTR neither so...


I KNOW you want listen because you haven't bumped your head into the unbreakable wall named Female nature yet. If the fire never hurt you, you won't be afraid of the heat ,right? And given the fact that your neighbours ( not even you yourself but okay) grew up in a seemingly happy marriage, you think you can pull it off as well and that its "normal".

You will yet have to experience how a woman can be your ride or die for years and SUDDENLY goes cold on you ..while she was your ride or die you grew a certain disdain for single people who weren't as " great as you" and "could keep a woman like you do". So when she leaves it will literally make you fall apart. But, you young! So you got time to recover!

So go ahead young buck! Live life and learn! Better to experience it all in your twenties ( like I did) and get rid of that itch before your 30 ESPECIALLY forties. Some men do this in their fecking 40,s and 50,s...so better do it now!

Let's talk again in 15 years!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Watching Disney Movies has ruined entire generations of men.

 

[zekko]

This is the most important thing to men, if they can believe in something, if they can believe they can have that woman for a lifetime, they live a happy life inside the fable.

You know, it's entirely possible that they can have their wives for a lifetime, they're not necessarily delusional idiots. There's a huge risk to marriage, that's for sure. But according to Google AI, 60-65% of first marriages NEVER end in divorce. That's a clear majority, and you would never guess that from only reading the manosphere. These are the men who have successfully built families, and are not hanging out on a seduction board trying to figure out what went wrong.

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

Bro..first I thought that like 85% of men wete bluepilled. Recently this forum showed me its actually 95%. Suddenly marriage is becoming a hot topic again.

And thats crazy ,because in order to believe that one woman will stick with you forever evah you need to be bluepilled to the core. To believe she won't be able to detach and get feeling for another man for decades...THAT'S the bluepill ideology!

" Forget female nature , Im so special that those rules don't apply for me".

Most men go through painful droughts. Marriage is the ultimate flex, like jumping in the ocean to swim with the sharks thinkingyoull come out without harm. Most men are indeed bluepilled, and thus the world will always adjust to the bluepill agenda via politics, religion, and overall influence from famous people. It is what it is..

I have started to believe men are more prone to stick even to a ****ty relationship out of internal values (not ruling out fear of being alone here), which most women don't care, they kind of just "feel it's not ok", pack their **** and leave. That's what I did, I was not afraid of being alone, I knew I could get chicks, but I wanted to "honor" the relationship and her by sticking around. Girls just don't understand that nonsense. So, now I just leave my values where they actually matter. Women will stick to a jerk if they "feel it's ok" and leave the honest dude if they feel "it's not working".

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

These are the men who have successfully built families, and are not hanging out on a seduction board trying to figure out what went wrong.

I'd put that in big quotation marks. We do not know why those guys decide to stick, and we cannot assume it's because they successfully built their families. I had an ex, her parents never got divorced but it was known and accepted her mom was ****ing someone else. I know other cases, where for example, they stick together because of a financial reason, treating marriage like a business of some sorts.

I think then it will depend on what each man defines a "successful family" or "marriage".

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

If they know about the redpill, they will now know the true female nature so they won't neither believe in a woman, so they will also lose that "inner" strenght that drive their life.

What kind of man places a woman to be their source of inner strength and drive in life. **** that, my drive is my own and depends entirely on me and things I control. I try desire only things I can get and I avoid things I know I cannot get or fall outside my control. This doesn't mean being in bed of course, but it also means I don't care if I get a promotion or not. So placing your inner drive in something outside your control is moronic. Place your drive in how you aim the bow and how far back you pull the string, not if it falls on the objective or not.

 

[zekko]

I'd put that in big quotation marks. We do not know why those guys decide to stick, and we cannot assume it's because they successfully built their families. I had an ex, her parents never got divorced but it was known and accepted her mom was ****ing someone else. I know other cases, where for example, they stick together because of a financial reason, treating marriage like a business of some sorts.

Most successful marriages I've seen (and I've known quite a few) have been couples who built families. Sure, there will always be guys who are unhappily married, but statistically married men are happier than singles. Marriage isn't for everybody, but it works out for a LOT of people, no matter what you read here.

Note that the 60-65% rate for no divorces is for FIRST marriages specifically. This tells me that if it didn't work out for you the first time, it's probably just not in the cards. There are only so many men cut out to be husbands, and only so many women who would make suitable wives. In any case, I'm not going to sit here and mock married men as failures when actual statistics tell a surprisingly different story. I'm not saying go get married, it's very risky, and the laws are against men - but a lot of fine men have succeeded at it, and I'm not going to ridicule them for it.

 

[ivlvs_veridivs]

Most successful marriages I've seen (and I've known quite a few) have been couples who built families. Sure, there will always be guys who are unhappily married, but statistically married men are happier than singles. Marriage isn't for everybody, but it works out for a LOT of people, no matter what you read here.

Note that the 60-65% rate for no divorces is for FIRST marriages specifically. This tells me that if it didn't work out for you the first time, it's probably just not in the cards. There are only so many men cut out to be husbands, and only so many women who would make suitable wives. In any case, I'm not going to sit here and mock married men as failures when actual statistics tell a surprisingly different story. I'm not saying go get married, it's very risky, and the laws are against men - but a lot of fine men have succeeded at it, and I'm not going to ridicule them for it.

What would you say has been a key factor or factors to their success? And BTW I also don't want to ridicule successful men at marriages, I have a healthy dose of doubt I think, but if the data says there is something there, then it should be there.