Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Most girls are afraid to approach is it our fault???

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ricorico said:
Both also said they've never had any good experiences with guys they approach first because the guys just thought they were easy and besides, guys like the chase.
This is true, just check out this guys response in another thread: ( http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125752 )

Obsidian said:
It is possible to get a girl to ask you out, but you should never count on it. And if she does ask you out, she may be good-looking, but she's probably still not the type of girl you ought to date. (There are exceptions, but this is a definite trend you should be aware of.) It takes ballz to ask someone out; you don't want a girl with ballz. Look past beauty and search for real femininity.

I personally think that some of the best relationships I've seen started with the woman approaching, but for myself, if I really like a guy, I have the same fear as the women in the o.p.'s story, about the guy thinking less of me than if he somehow magically approaches.

The worst part for me is I am one of those girls that men are afraid to approach. SO, I am alone, and they are alone. Funny, right!?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The female perspective:

ricorico said:
Both also said they've never had any good experiences with guys they approach first because the guys just thought they were easy and besides, guys like the chase.
This is true, just check out this guys response in another thread: ( http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125752 )

Obsidian said:
It is possible to get a girl to ask you out, but you should never count on it. And if she does ask you out, she may be good-looking, but she's probably still not the type of girl you ought to date. (There are exceptions, but this is a definite trend you should be aware of.) It takes ballz to ask someone out; you don't want a girl with ballz. Look past beauty and search for real femininity.

I personally think that some of the best relationships I've seen started with the woman approaching, but for myself, if I really like a guy, I have the same fear as the women in the o.p.'s story, about the guy thinking less of me than if he somehow magically approaches.

The worst part for me is I am one of those girls that men are afraid to approach. SO, I am alone, and they are alone. Funny, right!?
 
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ricorico said:
In seeing these answers I am suprised guys are so judgemental towards women who approach. it's like we are just as complicated and fickle as women. We're pissed we have to do all the work in approaching,yet when it happens it's cause she must be easy so we don't want her as much. maybe it can be because she sees a guy she actually is very attracted to and she does'nt want the oppurtunity to meet him to go away. As opposed to waiting for guys to hit on her and the majority are losers . She may think she either has to take, the least bad of the lot, or take matters into her own hands and try to get the type of guy who really turns her on.
This is completely TRUE.

I HAVE to play games with men, because they ARE just as fickle as women. It's crazy. Don't tell anyone I told you that, most women like men to think they are the ones doing everything, a woman's best game is making men THINK they thought of it.
 

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ricorico said:
I've seen a few girls approach buddies of mine which seems great. but in talking to these guys they never have had a LTR with a woman who approached first. Last week I was at a bar-b-que with some friends when 2 girls who live near me began talking about a guy who seems new in our neighborhood and walks his dog. They thought he was super-hot, but both said he was not very friendly. It seems a 3rd girl had noticed him also and mentioned it to one of the 2 girls talking earlier during the week. Noone knew where he lived.

The girls were figuring out a way to talk to him. One thought he was shy, the other thought perhaps stuck-up. I aksed why noone just went up to talk to him since they all seem so interested,they looked shocked. They figured he must have a girlfriend or he only dates "model" types. Meanwhile the two girls talking are really hot with knock-out bodies. Both also said they've never had any good experiences with guys they approach first because the guys just thought they were easy and besides, guys like the chase.

So is it our fault we take women who approach us as easy and the ones who make us work hard for a date we appreciate more,therfore making it unpleasent experience for women to approach first??
It's not really anyone's fault. Both men and women have a tendency to rationalize failure based on anecdotal experiences. Some women will pursue, some won't. Just make it easy for them by approaching first and then letting them go after you. If she doesn't then you figure it's probably just her beliefs rather than initial shyness.
 

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thefemaleperspective said:
The worst part for me is I am one of those girls that men are afraid to approach. SO, I am alone, and they are alone. Funny, right!?
Maybe men who have balls enough to approach are not attracted to you enough to approach you.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Dark Chivalry said:
Maybe men who have balls enough to approach are not attracted to you enough to approach you.
Or the ones with balls are complete losers who have nothing to lose.

I DO get approached by men I am interested in, but I also let alot of good ones go, because they are too shy to approach me. And if they appoach me, well then. I am a masculine hor, right?!
 

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Wow, then I'm doing everything wrong. Lately I've been acting from experience. My ex told me one reason why she was really attracted to me was because I was a challenge and she had to pursue me and she had to work to get me to want her. She told me a lot of women like the thrill of the challenge. So lately I've been doing that with a few other girls... it's only worked with one tho. Maybe I'll try being more forward and work at it.
 
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