"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Music is my main passion, always has been, and since getting the non-matrix mindset it's really sucked listening to the songs I loved growing up and wanting to throw up listening to the lyrics today. Really sucks. This is probably why I mainly listen to instrumental/upbeat dance music now.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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KarmaSutra said:
Well Warboss you've narrowed your age to somewhere in the mid to late thirties. Any of my friends who listen to Rainbow are within that age bracket.
I'm 21, and I listen to Rainbow - they rock. I've been meaning to get my hands on a copy of their self-titled debut for a while now, but I've got "Rising," and it kicks ass.
 
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Music is my main passion, always has been, and since getting the non-matrix mindset it's really sucked listening to the songs I loved growing up and wanting to throw up listening to the lyrics today. Really sucks. This is probably why I mainly listen to instrumental/upbeat dance music now.
This post absolutely blows my mind.

A classic example of what happens when you become entrenched in sosuave dogma.

I hope I am not the only one that can see what is wrong here.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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LeComteDeMonteCristo said:
This post absolutely blows my mind.

A classic example of what happens when you become entrenched in sosuave dogma.

I hope I am not the only one that can see what is wrong here.
Well, whatever. Most songs I grew up with (80s, 90s pop songs) sung by men, are of men supplicating and begging for love, begging to be taken back by the chick, and taking pride in letting their emotions control them. Not to say there's not a place for all emotions in music, there is.... Glad to blow your mind though.
 

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paintballz said:
rap = hey baby i will treat you right and take you shopping to your heart desires!

almost every rapper says it!!!
50 cent get in my car " i got no pick up lines, I till the hoes all the time get in my car"


"T.I. let me love you remix " I was ballin before you and I'll be the same after you"


Ice cube" Last night she suck my ****, now she is kissing little man, won't he suck my **** and lets cut out the middle man"

Afro man " I love the way you grease your thighs but I'm savin my money for some chilly cheese fries"

Snoop " *****es ain't **** but hoes and tricks"
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Most AFC song ever

Everclear - She's So High Above Me
 

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reset said:
Well, whatever. Most songs I grew up with (80s, 90s pop songs) sung by men, are of men supplicating and begging for love, begging to be taken back by the chick, and taking pride in letting their emotions control them. Not to say there's not a place for all emotions in music, there is.... Glad to blow your mind though.
well, if i understand it well, you are talking about backstreet boys type of music? these songs suck, matrix mindset or not. Pop from the 90s is garbage so i m glad you re done listening to that bs.

As for your first statement, that you cannot listen to songs that have "AFC lyrics" in them, i feel like that really shows your limitations when it comes to music. I m a huge hip hop fan and that s how i got into funk and, more recently, soul. Marvin gaye, al green, curtis mayfield, james brown, tower of power, the isley brothers... Ya, if you look at the lyrics from a sosuave addict point of view they suck, they re too AFC. But you are missing the bigger picture: the poetry, the powerful emotions... that s what soul is all about. Even though i m not saying I would follow their lead when it comes to women, i can still listen to these songs and enjoy them, without letting what i ve learned on here blind me to the beauty of their music
 

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well, if i understand it well, you are talking about backstreet boys type of music? these songs suck, matrix mindset or not. Pop from the 90s is garbage so i m glad you re done listening to that bs.

Even though i m not saying I would follow their lead when it comes to women, i can still listen to these songs and enjoy them, without letting what i ve learned on here blind me to the beauty of their music
Well, this conversation about reset's musical tastes is interesting.

I wonder, since I'm in the same boat as reset, are we meant to be ashamed of ourselves for taking lyrics too seriously?

I no longer appreciate music that advocates an AFC ethos. When a musician takes the time to tell a story with words and sound, he must be somewhat convinced of the seriousness of his message or the feeling he expresses. People say its just music, but good music takes hours and hours to compose. People who express an AFC worldview in their music are serious about it, no joke, this is truly what they want to bring across.

I used to listen to Morrissey and the Smiths... can't anymore.
 

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Technical1 said:
When a musician takes the time to tell a story with words and sound, he must be somewhat convinced of the seriousness of his message or the feeling he expresses.
see, here s the problem: some of the best music and literature (especially poetry) has been written/composed by heart-broken men. And they are expressing their true feelings. I understand that you no longer share their view on life but you can't dismiss their feelings about women(and the art that they produce based on those feelings) just because you don't feel the same way.

Also, there is more to a song than just the lyrics. If you like the music, then you don't necessarily have to take those lyrics to heart.

Let me put it another way: do you think everyone who listened to gangsta rap (and i m talking about the good old days of the pac-biggie feud, not the 50 cent and other various fake gangsta rappers today) was busy pimpin girls, selling drugs and trafficking weapons?

So you can still listen to the smiths and morrisey without crying yourself to sleep over some girl not returning your advances
 

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do you think everyone who listened to gangsta rap (and i m talking about the good old days of the pac-biggie feud, not the 50 cent and other various fake gangsta rappers today) was busy pimpin girls, selling drugs and trafficking weapons?
:crackup: lol

So you can still listen to the smiths and morrisey without crying yourself to sleep over some girl not returning your advances
Perhaps eventually, yeah maybe youre right. I'm gonna go give "Every Day is Like Sunday" a listen and see if I can laugh at it from the perspective of a DJ overlooking the world from Mount Olympus. :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Technical1 said:
I used to listen to Morrissey and the Smiths... can't anymore.
I am a huge Morrissey and Smiths fan, I've actually posted about this... There are actually several songs that aren't depressing when you think about it. For every depressing one there's a funny one. I'd say it's half and half.

But I no longer identify with the "lonely misunderstood artist", which I was for about 28 years or so, lol. But I'm also not going to just throw out my entire history. So, I listen to the smiths and morrissey still---but just not the "I am so lonely" songs.

Technical you should check out the song "at last I am born" from his new album.
 

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drak_ool said:
well, if i understand it well, you are talking about backstreet boys type of music? these songs suck, matrix mindset or not. Pop from the 90s is garbage so i m glad you re done listening to that bs.

As for your first statement, that you cannot listen to songs that have "AFC lyrics" in them, i feel like that really shows your limitations when it comes to music. I m a huge hip hop fan and that s how i got into funk and, more recently, soul. Marvin gaye, al green, curtis mayfield, james brown, tower of power, the isley brothers... Ya, if you look at the lyrics from a sosuave addict point of view they suck, they re too AFC. But you are missing the bigger picture: the poetry, the powerful emotions... that s what soul is all about. Even though i m not saying I would follow their lead when it comes to women, i can still listen to these songs and enjoy them, without letting what i ve learned on here blind me to the beauty of their music
I listen to just about everything. Music is my passion. I have extremely refined tastes. I'm sure I could go head to head with you and see who's "musically limited" :rolleyes:

But I like some of the stuff you mentioned. Since coming to sosuave I went from lots of depressing stuff to lots of soul, funk, disco, house, etc.

I actually like the same music I always have, but I don't RELATE and IDENTIFY with some of those heartbroken messages, like I did before. I think that's the key. I remember what it's like and sometimes It's comforting to hear, but I've changed, and the music I listen to changes as well.

But, I still listen to Depeche Mode, the Cure (especially the angry, harder/faster tracks) Smiths, on a regular basis.
 

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Technical you should check out the song "at last I am born" from his new album.
Thanks reset, I'll check it out.

The whole lonely artist thing aside (which I understand perfectly well BTW), Morrissey and Smiths hit on some ethereal sounds which I just cant find anywhere with the same spirit. For some reason my soul is totally tuned into that frequency, NOT because I get off on sadness but because of the sound they chose. I dont like the whole jagoff sadness thing but "Every Day is Like Sunday" and other songs just resonate with me so deeply. You guys know what I mean? I feel like that music is made just for me.
 

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Technical1 said:
Thanks reset, I'll check it out.

The whole lonely artist thing aside (which I understand perfectly well BTW), Morrissey and Smiths hit on some ethereal sounds which I just cant find anywhere with the same spirit. For some reason my soul is totally tuned into that frequency, NOT because I get off on sadness but because of the sound they chose. I dont like the whole jagoff sadness thing but "Every Day is Like Sunday" and other songs just resonate with me so deeply. You guys know what I mean? I feel like that music is made just for me.
I hear you. Funny thing is they were pretty damn unique. Lots of people try to imitate that but it's hard to do. Have you heard of Belle & Sebastian? They're kind of like that, their albums have been hit or miss over the years. Suede (london suede) is another band that comes to mind.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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