"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hi all, this is my first time posting but I have visited this board for a few months now. I need some help on this because I'm dumbfounded and not sure what to do.

So, I've been going out with this girl for a week now and she mentioned to me that she is a mormon. At first, I was kind of ok with it but now I'm hesitant because mormons aren't supposed to do anything to hurt their bodies. For example, no smoking, drinking, piercing, lying. The bad stuff. I don't consider myself badass but sometimes I like to tap some bong and drink. What kind of activities can I do with her without offending her religion?

Thanks
-Stumped .....
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Stratocaster

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LoL...i dunno man. She probably doesn't shave either lool.

Hopefully for you she is one of them girls tht is waiting to rebel and go crazy and stuff.
 

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She'll go nuts when she hits college -- if she doesn't head off to BYU. While she's still under mommy and daddy's control, you have almost zero chance of tapping that @ss. Don't even mention smoking, drinking, anything. Concentrate on what you two have in common, become her friend, and hope she goes to whatever college you go to.

Christian girls rock in bed.
 

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What do you think? Honestly, post what you think you could do. If you say you dont know go kill yourself.
 

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No drugs, alcohol. Check.
No sex. Check.
No piercing, lying. Check.
If you know what you can do without offending the religion, here's a tip. Keep your clothes on. Don't really heavily makeout with her.
Don't touch any private spots, including the breasts. Grinding, dancing really really close is offensive.
So... just treat her like a friend. You can still kiss her and all, but if you kiss her like you plan to have sex with her, I wouldn't suggest it. Besides that, ask her what you can do, before you do anything. Just make sure its clear what's good and bad with her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Athletic stuff, Movies (not R), outdoor stuff, just think of what she's interested in and apply it.
 

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Actaully, she is applying to BYU. Yea, I guess I can just turn down the horniness and be casual or something. I just wanted a change of scenery once in a while.

Thanks for ur help doods.

-brdd
 

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damn man that'd be tuff to go out with a mormon. i cant imagine doing it personally, but if u like her enuff then go for it
 

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I think you can score man, remember we are all humans, we all have urgess and horneyness. I think just treat her like any other girl. OH YEH, you could try going to church with her, if they let others come in.
 

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Don't pick your college just because this girl is going there...it aint worth it man lol....please don't.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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haha

i knew these mormon girl who used to drink, occasionally smoke, have sex and flash her titties, but she was pretty sorry after doing any of that **** that she eventually just quit doing all of that.
 

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nahh.....I wont go to BYU, hell no. I'm going to CSULB but I've only been going out with her for a week, maybe she'll be more comfortable around me and let loose. I'll see how it turns out.

-brdd
 
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