monkey branch timeline

[jhonny9546]

We've seen it all, from the POV of the man who suffered, and from that of the man who took advantage, and many experienced men here have witnessed it so many times that they likely have a clear idea of the precise steps a woman takes when she monkeybranches.

If you were to list these steps to visualize them better, like a system or repetition of patters, and make an informative post for the men out there, about how, what, and when she will monkeybranch, what would you include and in what order?

It would be incredibly helpful to know what the man should do "in response to her moves", because many men, unfortunately, through no fault of their own, fail to use the "romantic" "Disney narrative" to their advantage, thus leading, but fall into it and become the victims.

 

[dark god]

1. Wants to hang with friends more then usual or now wants to hang with work buddies who a few months prior didn't care for so much.
2. Texting more then usual and secretive about it.
3. Dressing differently.. now little extra attention to how she looks.
4. Hobbies and interest that she didn't have before.
5. Going to the gym..with you she was a couch potatoe now what's to be the next miss usa fitness.
6. And the biggest red flag is sex slows way down or stops.

I can't really put an order to these because every woman is different but if she's doin at least 3 out of the 6 above your in trouble my friend.

 

[jhonny9546]

6. And the biggest red flag is sex slows way down or stops.

I do agree with many of your points, but this is not always true.
One of my exes started to beg me everyday to have hardcore sex with her, doing more perverse things, like BSDM stuff, and she increased oral sex frequency. From nothing.
In the meanwhile, I found out She was having experiences "abroad" our Relationship

 

[The Duke]

There is never a set of steps, women aren't that methodical. Stop trying to understand women using such structured logic. They are ruled by their emotions. Some of you view women as mathematical equations when you should take a more psychological/sociological approach.

All the things @dark god listed are good, here are a few more possible indicators that I've witnessed in person:

-She is out shopping more.
-She starts buying lingerie.
-Happy hour is more frequent and lasts longer.
-She has to work late more often.
-She stops attending your functions/hobbies/events.
-She skips out on your grandma's funeral even though she knew how important it was that she should be there.
-She opens a new checking account for herself.
-Her sleeping habits change.
-She doesn't always take your calls.
-Her texting habits change.
-She gets flakey on plans with your.
-She doesn't want to see you every 2-3 days like she did before.
-She leaves out details on what she is doing when she isn't with you. Becomes more vague.

What should a man do? lol, pull away and prepare to end the relationship. By the time she starts disrespecting your relationship, she has already flipped the switch. Her actions are an attempt to make you angry and do something stupid so she can justify leaving and blame it on you.

You don't try and keep women like this. There are many others out there if the one you have doesn't work out. Trust me, it will be just fine. Variety is the spice of life anyways. There isn't a single one of them that is perfect or even close to it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Disinterest is only met with more disinterest.

Men need to stop looking at "what can I do to get this woman back" and start looking at it as "this woman no longer deserves my attention so I will give it elsewhere".

But again...too many people are trying to get to a place of abundance coming from a place of lack and that will not work, ever.

 

[jhonny9546]

If you think your woman wants to monkey branch then you fvcked up

Not mine in particular, but I'm observing three friends in LTR (7, 10, and 11 years). Their gf's have cheated in the past and were forgiven. Now, the couples with 10 and 11 years together also have kids and are planning to get married.

From an external POV, I can clearly see signs of monkeybranching in two of them. One I'm pretty sure because She tried to seduce me.
My friends are learning important lessons because they don't want to listen to what I see.
They're the 'secure' kind of men, really 'confident,' but immature and childish at the same time. And close minded.

you weren't her best option

Disagree with this, because You can be the 1st option now, but not tomorrow, and also, You can be the 1st option now, but She will still have someone on her https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/no-you-are-not-on-her-high-score-list.240607/

So either You are failing at getting your own sh11t togheter or either failing at analyzing the situation logically (you can still work hard, but she could still have no real 100% genuine interest in you). In the 2nd scenario it's not your fault.

 

[Westminster]

Therein lies the problem because once she cheats you need to end it. Whatever the cost, its over.

You forgive a woman for stepping out, you have no self respect and deserve no sympathy.

For me, its the ultimate deal breaker. No way back.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If you think your woman wants to monkey branch then you fvcked up, either from the beginning you weren't her best option or during the relationship you became puzzy whipped.

The only action to do here is, put a dead relationship out of its misery don't let her hang on the next branch, let her go through the trouble of trying to replace you. Cut her off your life, focus on yourself and do a lot of reflection on what you did so you don't repeat the same mistakes again.

Usually this is the case, but there are also times when she realizes you aren't what she thought you were going to be over time and then it causes a rift in her mind which is very difficult to overcome because she sees you one way but realizes you aren't that...usually due to how you respond to situations that don't come up very often or in stressful situations.

This isn't necessarily "you doing something wrong", this is simply two people not being compatible long term.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That usually happens when a guy uses PUA techniques to get girls, without internalizing he's the prize. That same $hit happened to Mystery.

IMO compatibility issues happens when the guy is needy and makes his woman the center, the girl feels in a prison, I mean you can't blame her.

Not really, but keep believing that

 

[jhonny9546]

puzzy

What is the sosuave meaning for this?
Sorry I'm italian

usually due to how you respond to situations that don't come up very often or in stressful situations.

My sister experienced these moments, which we will call "shocks," when her boyfriend had outbursts of anger. His glass of patience was full, and he felt the need to release tension. However, my sister was deeply affected by this; it was as if it were something she could never erase.

That’s why it is always recommended to remain calm and walk away. But it’s really not easy, guys. You need to set limits to those modern women that like to "put your finger in the wound" while also managing that fury. Then, you have to find a way to let off steam. How do you do it?

 

[Glassguy]

There is never a set of steps, women aren't that methodical. Stop trying to understand women using such structured logic. They are ruled by their emotions. Some of you view women as mathematical equations when you should take a more psychological/sociological approach.

All the things @dark god listed are good, here are a few more possible indicators that I've witnessed in person:

-She is out shopping more.
-She starts buying lingerie.
-Happy hour is more frequent and lasts longer.
-She has to work late more often.
-She stops attending your functions/hobbies/events.
-She skips out on your grandma's funeral even though she knew how important it was that she should be there.
-She opens a new checking account for herself.
-Her sleeping habits change.
-She doesn't always take your calls.
-Her texting habits change.
-She gets flakey on plans with your.
-She doesn't want to see you every 2-3 days like she did before.
-She leaves out details on what she is doing when she isn't with you. Becomes more vague.

What should a man do? lol, pull away and prepare to end the relationship. By the time she starts disrespecting your relationship, she has already flipped the switch. Her actions are an attempt to make you angry and do something stupid so she can justify leaving and blame it on you.

You don't try and keep women like this. There are many others out there if the one you have doesn't work out. Trust me, it will be just fine. Variety is the spice of life anyways. There isn't a single one of them that is perfect or even close to it.

As always, spot on. Excellent post.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

What is the sosuave meaning for this?

A quick google search: It has several meanings, as slang, as euphemism, and as vulgarity. Most commonly, it is used as a noun with the meaning "cat", "coward", or "weakling". In slang, it can mean "vulva or vagina"

 

[Barrister]

There is never a set of steps, women aren't that methodical. Stop trying to understand women using such structured logic. They are ruled by their emotions. Some of you view women as mathematical equations when you should take a more psychological/sociological approach.

All the things @dark god listed are good, here are a few more possible indicators that I've witnessed in person:

-She is out shopping more.
-She starts buying lingerie.
-Happy hour is more frequent and lasts longer.
-She has to work late more often.
-She stops attending your functions/hobbies/events.
-She skips out on your grandma's funeral even though she knew how important it was that she should be there.
-She opens a new checking account for herself.
-Her sleeping habits change.
-She doesn't always take your calls.
-Her texting habits change.
-She gets flakey on plans with your.
-She doesn't want to see you every 2-3 days like she did before.
-She leaves out details on what she is doing when she isn't with you. Becomes more vague.

What should a man do? lol, pull away and prepare to end the relationship. By the time she starts disrespecting your relationship, she has already flipped the switch. Her actions are an attempt to make you angry and do something stupid so she can justify leaving and blame it on you.

You don't try and keep women like this. There are many others out there if the one you have doesn't work out. Trust me, it will be just fine. Variety is the spice of life anyways. There isn't a single one of them that is perfect or even close to it.

Great list. I’d add more general disinterest will increase in proportion to how close she is getting to monkey branching. Sometimes this can be outright b1tchiness.

 

[Gamisch]

Not mine in particular, but I'm observing three friends in LTR (7, 10, and 11 years). Their gf's have cheated in the past and were forgiven. Now, the couples with 10 and 11 years together also have kids and are planning to get married.

From an external POV, I can clearly see signs of monkeybranching in two of them. One I'm pretty sure because She tried to seduce me.
My friends are learning important lessons because they don't want to listen to what I see.
They're the 'secure' kind of men, really 'confident,' but immature and childish at the same time. And close minded.

Gotta say that this is a great real life example .

 

[jhonny9546]

Gotta say that this is a great real life example .

I would like to add that these men are now investing in setting boundaries in their relationships, and I am sure that their wives are secretly laughing. They maintain a public image, but behind the scenes, they do what they want, using plausible excuses like "time for the kids" or "family obligations," or "chores time" etc..
Those men work 10hrs a day in their jobs.

 

[Gamisch]

I would like to add that these men are now investing in setting boundaries in their relationships, and I am sure that their wives are secretly laughing. They maintain a public image, but behind the scenes, they do what they want, using plausible excuses like "time for the kids" or "family obligations," or "chores time" etc..
Those men work 10hrs a day in their jobs.

Laughing out loud.

You cannot set a boundaries after someone went passed your limits already. Cheating is the ultimate way, but there are many more subtle seemingly small ways a woman can do this.

As I said before: as i got older I've learned that marriage is mostly done by men out of scarcity. Yes, it's the ultimate flex to have a loyal loving wife and give the rest of the world the middle finger up. But the dynamics don't stop at the alter. We never hear about the after movie do we?

When the man settled in there might come a moment when a the woman starts to doubt the relationship. She might not care as much about HIS flex.

I can talk about this sh1t for hours.

 

[Vanderdonck]

It would be incredibly helpful to know what the man should do "in response to her moves", because many men, unfortunately, through no fault of their own, fail to use the "romantic" "Disney narrative" to their advantage, thus leading, but fall into it and become the victims.

Best thing a man can do is walk away. No need to rearrange the chairs on the Titanic.

That’s why it is always recommended to remain calm and walk away. But it’s really not easy, guys. You need to set limits to those modern women that like to "put your finger in the wound" while also managing that fury. Then, you have to find a way to let off steam. How do you do it?

Nothing worth doing is ever easy. Trust yourself. I know I wasn't put on this earth to spend my life "managing fury." Comply or bye.

 

[Vanderdonck]

FWIW here's a sample timeline.

1st month. She starts mentioning some guy more often. This is to hide him in plain sight. Why would she mention him if she were going to fukk him?

2nd month. Ups the excuses to not be reachable or not make plans. Sex diminishes. Her phone lights up more with messages. I remember messages being from a girl ostensibly, but that was just how she saved his #.

3rd month. If she's got a branch in both hands (no, not a 3some) then she'll make a play to try to blow up the relationship. This will involve blaming you for a bunch of stupid shyt, getting you angry and then naturally ending it. Or she'll confess but say it was your fault, again, to anger you and prove her point.

Aftermath. The guy will reject him (why would he date a cheater) or he'll take her or it'll fizzle out. She will try to come back to you. It's gotta be a hard pass - if you're even reachable at this point.

Now, none of this is manageable. This isn't a game of chess. This is a woman who made up her mind. She's for the streets. We can be played for fools but doesn't mean we have to stick around.

 

[jhonny9546]

many more subtle seemingly small ways a woman can do this.

And this is an interesting point! I'm pretty sure you can teach things we still haven't known yet.

FWIW here's a sample timeline.
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You explained it in the simplest way possible. I've seen my sister do that with other men, and also a married female friend who was interested in me did the same thing.

She argued with her BF, blaming him for not being present.
But then, when she saw that I didn't want her as a married woman with children, she backtracked, saying that "his BF made her think that she was actually the one who had doubts about their relationship, and so, not him" so she took the blame and moved on.

And what did they do to "give each other" love again and "repair" the LTR?
Another child! She was pregnant right after this **** happened!!! Hahahaha!

And this women had been forgiven by this same man in the past for having cheated.

This is so clear to my eyes, but his BF still can't see the thing..

She is in this relationship waiting for the next thing she can jump on. But now she's more smart than before: She doesn't have to leave him. She found the perfect prey. She can keep him for her "Public Image" of an happy family, but live a second secret life with other men lovers

 

[jhonny9546]

FWIW here's a sample timeline.
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You explained it in the simplest way possible. I've seen my sister do that with other men, and a married friend who was interested in me did the same thing! (And to think this woman had cheated in the past and was forgiven)