"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Money!

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Make them pay. I've done it but it has to be w/ women that you've already been hung out w/. And it hard azz to do, but can be done. Takes lotz and lotz of shytzna on your part.
 

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Find something cheap that either you can pay for both of you ( I know its hard, I am a college kid, broke as h3ll......).

Something like coffee, where she can pay for herself, or you can go to the riverwalk (if you have something like that where you live, it usually works well for me, nice and quiet, you can get to know the girl better).

Or you can rent a movie, and just chill on the couch (works better if you have known the girl for a while, not really a first date idea)
 

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do stuff that doesnt cost money, like take walks, go swimming, take hikes etc. Also make sure you pick the right time during the day. You dont want her getting hungry on ya during ur hike. Also you could try biking.....i asked a couple of girls to go biking this summer i got two to agree to go. It was a good time....they had a hard time doing it though which was kinda annoying.
 

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Originally posted by Sasha

(And no fcking wise azz commenst like "get a job") :D
or, you could get a job!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Well I m new here, but froming readin the site and from experience, dont go on dates, meet her somewhere or go places that have no charge. I believe dates like dinner and a movie are for relationships, and relationships that have been build up, not for people just tryin to get to know each other. Action places are great, hell, skate in the park, take a walk, be creative, but most importantly, stay true to yourself.
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Cardio
Well I m new here, but froming readin the site and from experience, dont go on dates, meet her somewhere or go places that have no charge.

. Action places are great, hell, skate in the park, take a walk, be creative, but most importantly, stay true to yourself.
and what would you call going to the park or taking a walk on the beach at dusk?
 

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no bren...i think you misunderstood me, I m no expert on this site, but I was talking about the usual causal let me get your phone number so we can go to a movie type of thing, where, basically, it looks like a date, instead, it should just be a get together as you said on the beach or in the park or whereever. Just my opinion.
 
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