"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i've started going out with a new 21 year old girl and she's a student with little money. Up to now i've prob payed 66% of the costs and we've intentionally done cheaper things however I want to do more and I know she can't afford it. I make good money so I don't mine paying however this could become serious and I dont want to ruin it by making myself her sugar daddy. If I keep paying she may just see me like that.

any ideas? And I know, I wouldnt normally date one so young.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Charlie said:
...any ideas? And I know, I wouldnt normally date one so young.
You pay for what you get...
 

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how old are you? if you are in your 30s and talking about getting serious with a 21 year old you are nuts.

a 21 year old is nothing but a sex toy.
 

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Don't they say the difference between a hooker and a girlfriend ...is the

hooker is cheaper ?


:rockon:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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My coworker who is 35 and divorced with FIVE kids just got ENGAGED to a 21 year old.

I am afraid he is in for a world of hurt.
 

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If you are taking your broke girlfriend to the movies, dinner, etc. and paying, you are OK.

If you are paying her school tuition, or her rent, you might be a sugar daddy.
 

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Charlie said:
i've started going out with a new 21 year old girl and she's a student with little money. Up to now i've prob payed 66% of the costs and we've intentionally done cheaper things however I want to do more and I know she can't afford it. I make good money so I don't mine paying however this could become serious and I dont want to ruin it by making myself her sugar daddy. If I keep paying she may just see me like that.

any ideas? And I know, I wouldnt normally date one so young.

Women are typically an expense and rarely an asset. Spend at your comfort level and you shouldn't have a problem.


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Francisco d'Anconia

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My coworker who is 35 and divorced with FIVE kids just got ENGAGED to a 21 year old.

I am afraid he is in for a world of hurt.
Things seem really clear when you're looking in from the outside.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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what types of costs are you incurring, like dinner dates or something? That doesn't seem like such a big deal to me. Imo, you're doing the right thing by staying fairly cheap, though. Why should people feel the need to spend a bunch of money all the time in order to have fun?

I think women will always see you as a sugar daddy to some extent because men usually make more money, and ultimately it's (hopefully) gonna be the wife who stays home to raise the kids while the dad goes out and earns income. The important thing is, before you get to that point, to make sure that she likes you for more than your money.

and get a prenup
 
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